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    Mike,

    The Fixor web site is pretty serious to say that their second component isn't AN. They say it is an inert material, whereas AN is usually considered an oxidizer. That is their big selling point, that their component is "inert", and they seem to be very secretive about what it is.
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    I discovered in my corner of the basement a book on Liquid explosives. Very neat to look at. There were three (if you consider each bottle) types of Astrolite A & B. Then came Astrolite G. The book starts out with the early developement of Astrolite's begining and what they used as chemicals back then. I will have to post some more info on this subject in an hour or two.
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    Here what "Meyer's Explosives" has to say about:

    ASTROLITE
    Stochiometric mixture from hydrazine and ammonium nitrate. It was a
    spin off from the US-rocket program in the 60’s. Like in 19
    th century
    Sprengel (
    W Sprengel Explosives) already suggested, two non explosive
    components become cap sensitive after being mixed. Astrolite
    G and Astrolite A/A-1-5 (with 20 % aluminium additive) are called also
    “liquid land mine” or “binary explosive”. The explosive strength of such
    mixtures is very high (see also
    W Hydan) and exceeds in certain
    aspects even Nitroglycol. Detonation velocity of Astrolite G: 8600 m/s
    and Astrolite A/A-1-5: 7800 m/s.


    And here Wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolite

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    And here some general info on liquid explosives:

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ves-liquid.htm

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    Liquid explosives have never been looked at favorably by the US military. Leakage from the ordnance is always a problem after a while, the low density of a liquid will limit the power of the explosive, and, in the case of the astrolite explosives- the hydrazine makes the explosive VERY toxic. Not to mention the economic reasons- hydrazine is not cheap to make, due to it's toxicity.

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    Here two links, one for astrolite that you have sure read, the second for kinepak, a binary explosive that we have tested. Our problem is the transport on airways. Therefor we are looking on binary explosives who are two different product, inert when take apart and then authorized in aircrafts. But it never give a similar effect as C4 or TNT !

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrolite
    http://www.havoc.com.au/KinePak_Brochure.pdf

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    In the mid 1980s I was a guided weapons instructor at the Army School of Ammo and occasionally helped out the EOD branch on the demolition ground. The EOD branch acquired a liquid explosive that was in spray cans, named Foamex. It was simply squirted from the can onto whatever you needed to use it on, then you placed a detonator into the liquid. The liquid had to be thick enough not to run or, if on a vertical surface a bund had to be improvised to keep it in place. It was best to keep the time from spraying to detonation as short as possible. I think its use for what we then needed was limited. I do not remember from where it was sourced.
    Any live or dug ordnance shown in my posts has been dealt with accordingly by eod personel

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    I've heard of this foaming explosive- it was based on nitromethane, and was intended for humanitarian mine clearance. Foamed nitromethane can be detonated, but it is easier/cheaper to ship than a "real" explosive to a mine-filled country.

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    When I worked for Ensign Bickford we made the foam in a can, as well as an extrudable explosive that looked like a chalk gun. There was some thought the foam expl (called LEXFOAM®) would work in the mione clearance arena. There was anotherm call MNX foam, nitromethane based, in 2003 the Army wrote a report on it say 1 can for a AP mine and 2 cams for a AT mine 0 too expensive. The FBI and ATF got involved in it and as the stroey goes, put enough pressure on the manufacture not to market it, thought it would be too great of a terrorist tool. I have 4 or 5 reports on both of these foams. As for Fixor, the patent talks about AN mix with AL and a catalyst, same goes for a explosve called
    Tannerite it supposedly is not an oxidizer either but again the patent says AN with AL. So who knows.

    Following is a write up on Lexfoam:

    LEXFOAM®
    Objective
    Provide for in-situ explosive neutralization of surface and buried AP and AT mines, using a nonexplosive material that is safe to transport and store and can be mixed on site to form a Class 1 explosive.

    Description
    Liquid Explosive Foam (LEXFOAM®) offers a highly efficient and versatile alternative to conventional high explosive blocks for the demolition of landmines and some unexploded ordnance. Mines are neutralized by spraying the LEXFOAM® on the mine and then detonating it from a distance with a standard blasting cap or a detonating cord. LEXFOAM® is composed of nitromethane stock solution which is mixed with liquid propane under a blanket of pressurized nitrogen. When this mixture is exposed to the atmosphere, the liquid propane expands to a gas producing a foam with the physical consistency of shaving cream. Prior to foaming, all components are classified as either inert (nitrogen) or as a Class 3 flammable liquid (LEXFOAM® stock solution and liquid propane). Only after foaming is a highly effective explosive produced. Another advantage of LEXFOAM® is that it makes intimate contact with uneven and rounded surfaces of mines where the use of explosive blocks might not initiate sympathetic detonation. The LEXFOAM® system was originally developed as a vehicle and a backpack delivery system. A new effort has been initiated to create a hand portable aerosol can delivery system that is a substantial improvement in weight and cost over the backpack version. The aerosol system consists of one can containing the LEXFOAM® stock solution and a second smaller capsule containing liquid propane. In the field, the liquid propane is injected into the LEXFOAM® stock solution container. The aerosol delivery system will be tested in December 1998.


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    Foam explosives X ray compared to shaving cream and a cast booster

    foam exp cast boost.jpgfoam exp shav.jpg

 

 
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