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    27 x 155 experimental navy case

    I got this recently from a very reputable source.
    Its a 27 x 155 experimental navy case.
    That's all I know about it.
    Does anyone have any further information?
    Its obviously a variation on the 27 x 145 (shown next to it for scale).
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    27 x 155 expt Navy case 001.jpg27 x 155 expt Navy case 002.jpg27 x 155 expt Navy case 003.jpg27 x 155 expt Navy case 004.jpg

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    Maybe something related to a special projectile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EOD View Post
    Maybe something related to a special projectile?
    Just thinking out loud here, did they ever make an APFSDS or apds for this case - I realise it wouldn't have been fired from an aircraft for obvious reasons, perhaps for another use?
    The 25mm KBB for example has a longer case for the apds.
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    Dave, there is an FAPDS for the use in the German Navy 27mm CIWS "MLG-27" (MLG = Marineleichtgeschütz = Light Naval Gun):
    http://www.bluesniper.de/galerie/mar...-27-mm-002.jpg

    There was also a quadruple mount named MIDAS / AMS-4-27 / DRAKON but I have no info if it got adopted somewhere. All 4 barrels made up for 7200 rounds/min:
    http://www.die-marine.de/_deutsch/ciws/image/Drakon.jpg

    The cartridge for these weapons is the FAPDS DM63 (officially adopted) but it has the standard 145mm case.

    Hard to say what your case was made for in detail.
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    Thanks, its starting to make a little more sense now. The person I got it from said it was a "27mm Navy case" which ties in well with the links you posted above. Mmmmmmmm I must do some more research.
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    The Mauser Drakon 4-bbl CIWS wasn't adopted by anyone. The German Navy selected the RAM missile system instead, and subsequently bought the MLG 27 with a single BK 27 for less demanding tasks.

    I am fairly sure that the Drakon fired APFSDS. I have an example of such a projectile, still in its sabot. I have no idea whether or not it used a different case length, but it could well have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Williams View Post
    The Mauser Drakon 4-bbl CIWS wasn't adopted by anyone. The German Navy selected the RAM missile system instead, and subsequently bought the MLG 27 with a single BK 27 for less demanding tasks.

    I am fairly sure that the Drakon fired APFSDS. I have an example of such a projectile, still in its sabot. I have no idea whether or not it used a different case length, but it could well have done.
    Thanks Tony, any chance of you posting a photo of your 27mm apfsds please, it sounds great!

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    Here you are - the top two are 25mm, the 27mm is at the bottom. Very short and sturdy!


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    OH!! Mmmmmmmm..........
    Lovely projectiles especially that 27mm, thanks for showing them.
    Attached are a few odd ones including a 27mm APFSDS, any ideas?
    They show a 27 x 150 prac, a 27 x 173 apfsds and a 25 x 137 prac. All with combustible or semi combustible cases.
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    Very nice Dave, but I don't know anything about them.

 

 

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