2 big shell cases

[paul the grenade]

Hi All. I managed to rescue these 2 cases from the scrap yard. A friend of mine was going to weigh them in but i stopped him in the nick of time.
can anyone ID these 2 cases the big on is 845mm high with a neck width of 145mm and is missing its primer. strangely the base markings say 130mm HEP. the smaller of the two is 695mm high with a neck width of 105mm.
any help would be appreciated along with an approx value as im sure he will want to sell them.
cheers, Paul.

[HAZORD]

130mm Russian for the large one and 100mm Russian for the small one. The larger one would be worth more, I would think at least $200.00 or more. Smaller one is more common, usually found as a tank case, and you know how many tanks the Russians have had. $100.00?

Good save!

[glevum]

There were some 130mm Iraqi cases in a local dealer's shop last year and he wanted £40 ea for them.

[EOD]

In Europe these cases are considerably cheaper I would say.
That 100mm looks like a Romanian one (no evidence but the code range fits Romania well). Are any black paint markings left on the side wall?

[EOD]

strangely the base markings say 130mm HEP.

Paul, it says "HEM" what is the manufacturer. Unfortunately is it not identified so far, it has also been found on 122mm D-30 HE shells. I wonder if it might be a western manufacturer like PRB.

[paul the grenade]

No sign of any paint markings on the outside of either.