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Haz
I'll recheck the OD.
The submunitions were covered in rust, the projectile and mortar rounds had "aftermarket" paint jobs, and rust and dirt. They will be appropriately repainted when details emerge.
Updated with measurements: 75.58mm/2.975"
I'm happy with the M79 designation. Looks to be the sure thing. Sure wish it had a rotating band.
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Rick,
I believe your AP-T projo minus rotating band is really a M79 3 inch or 76mm Army projectile. Rotating band groove is too wide for 75mm. You might want to double check the diameter of the body.
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Last edited by Slick; 15th June 2012 at 02:27 AM.
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15th June 2012, 04:48 PM #13Ordnance Approved
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The mortar round is defiantly not Dutch.
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Finally got a response back, he says he finally found a reference, at least for the 81mm version. Says it is a WWI French, pneumatic fired. It will take him some time to dig up the ref.
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The tail/fin assembly appears to be designed for a propelling charge. Anxious to see the details.
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So, Spotter was able to find a similar example in a trove of pictures he had. Seems this example is of WW1 vintage. And French. A tad bit of difference in the tail fin holes, but otherwise that same design. The body/nose is of what I assume to be an early version. Am guessing mine may be a between the wars edition.
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HI
about the mortar, mine have green head and stencilled 18 in white
Stamping under gascheck B 32 18 E
For me it's french mortar Brandt used since 1918 and after
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Doctor
Thank you for those details. Is it, in fact, a pneumatic round or does it have/use a propelling charge?
And, would it be possible for you to post pictures of your example?
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Hi
The name of this round is BM modèle 18 for Stokes mortar but in 81 mm not in 76 mm like primitive mortar round
Head green is for French MD explosive composition
Propelling charge is in cartridge ( 12 gr of EF pouder and 0.5 gr of fine pouder for ingnition)to put into the base tube vanes and additional pouder in little bag can be added between vanes
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Hi Slick,
here some drawings and text about your 81 mm mortar.
Hum, evidently, it's in french ! Sorry !
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