13 pdr

**Slick** · 29th August 2012, 06:43 PM

Finally got to dig around in the "good day" (http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/thread...was-a-good-day) lot, to see what all was there. Ran across this fine 13pdr specimen, but am not so sure the bullet that was stuck in the case is appropriate. Many searches have not proven anything, so here are some pics. All I have been able to find are references and pics for PD fuzed projectiles. This one, as you can see, had a base fuze. It is hollow. Maybe APHE of some sort. No markings of any sort, anywhere.

These bigger bullets are outside my "normal" collecting habits, but am giddy about having them. Maybe someone here can give a definitive ID.

Rick

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**HAZORD** · 30th August 2012, 01:13 AM

Rick,

You definitely have a 13 Pdr case, but I'm thinking your projectile is a U.S. Navy 3 inch. 13 Pdrs are 3 inch diameter, so an enterprising former owner has most likely done a bit of cross breeding. A high percentage of the U.K. Pdr projectiles have the Pdr size imprinted on the base of the projo, and your bullet looks spot-on for a U.S. Navy one, especially the band.

Is there any info stamped on the base of your bullet?

**Slick** · 30th August 2012, 01:22 AM

No markings of any sort, anywhere.

**Slick** · 30th August 2012, 11:26 AM

While searching, ran across this: http://www.rtbot.net/British_ordnance_terms#HE

Now, back to looking. Any guesses are appreciated on the topic projectile.

**HAZORD** · 30th August 2012, 06:05 PM

Still saying U.S. 3 inch Navy.

**Gspragge** · 30th August 2012, 06:39 PM

I agree with Haz, your case is a necked down 18 Pr to fit a 13 Pdr for AA use. Everything about the projectile says U.S.
I had a complete one some years ago, 13 Pr well marked projectile and #80 fuze.

**TimG** · 30th August 2012, 06:45 PM

Rick,

What you have there is a 13pr 9cwt as opposed to 13pr QF which was/still is used by horse drawn artillery. Your round was introduced as an anti-aircraft weapon and as I understand it, was a necked down 18pr case to fire a 13pr projectile. As John states if it was a British projectile, one would expect it to be covered in markings. Also, as an AA projectile one would expect it to use a nose time fuze like the No.80.

Tim