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    Maybe they stopped using the internal cap and went to this form. How much cotton wad was there, my case seemed to have a great deal of cotton cheese cloth like material in it. Certainly if the internal plug was being used you would have found it. Are these ww2 casings.

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    as I understand it the shell was rammed by the case if seperate loading so there must have been a a solid lid. Is the picture showing the shell being rammed but not fixed in the case? whos got the gun manual? The fixed cases have crimp grooves about 10mm below the top are slightly longer and do still have a hint of a neck when fired.

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    Also I think the shell would be handled by another member of the gun crew who would not be close enough to be in the photo until it was required to go in the empty gun. Of course it might not be an action photo but staged.

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    herewith photo showing the two types of closure, note both cases are sitting on their base without primers.12pr 12 tops.JPG

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    Dredging this topic back up since I've received my first 12 per external primer. I gather mine is a separate loading since it has no crimping groove. 1918, 12Cwt, reloaded in 10/39. My question would be this; what are the cuts in the mouth, as I see they are in 2pounder's S/L casing and Michael's also. Thanks, Bruce.
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    They are tabs to retain the fibreboard cup or washer that closes the mouth.

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    Thanks, Darkman. Does anyone know how common these casings are?
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    The gun was used through both the first, and second, world wars, so the cases for the S/L guns turn up here in England quite frequently at antique fairs and militaria shows. However, they are usually without the protruding primer, as it is easier to make them sit firmly without it.

    The AA gun case for the fixed round seems to be much scarcer, as I have only seen two for sale in the past 10 years.

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    The cases shown up in Canada once in a while also, but only as far as I've seen the notched kind. My two projectiles have no crimp groove and I imagine
    that kind of projectile is rare, does any one have one to show ? Certainly there is so little exposed body below the band and no crimp groove
    that the usual types would never go in a case & be crimped.

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