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HELP 40mm ?? but what ?? HELP

ken68

ken68

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Hello all and happy newyear . can anyone please help ID this projectile . Length is 6in x 40mm , has a missing drive band also a base fuze . no markings at all
Cheers Ken
 

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Hi Ken,
I can't help notice that there is no crimping groove below he drive band to secure it in a case. Not a profile I am familiar with as far as 40mm rounds go.
Best Weasel.
 
Yes thats what got me . With the missing drive band just makes it more of a mystery .i cant be any more than 1mm each way so classed it 40mm . The only time where i seen a drive band inside a shell case was an oto melara were most of the drive band was in the neck of the case ??
Seperate load but a bit small ? Base fuze extended ? No idea grasping at straws . HE ? Dont even have a clue what era .
Tricky one mate
Thanks
 
Could it be for some sort of CTA (case telescoped ammunition) round? The whole projectile would sit in the case if it was for that.

Dave.
 
looks awfully long in proportion to diameter. My guess is it is some ones attempt to make a projectile on their lathe.
 
I dont think this is a homer job . The drive band grips are correct also the threads have a peefect gape from the rear few mil's before theys start
 
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Yes it was more of a reference with the lack of crimping cannelure type projectile and showing quite large base fuze's . Ive seen a HESH type one pictured next to a smashed concrete wall . Not alot of close up pictures yet . But i got this from a very large selection of unfired 20/25/27/30mm TP projectiles it was just an odd ball so to speak . Plus the guy i got the kit from kinda rules out a homer job . Note even in these pictures the quite flat drive bands .
Talk of the 30mm rarden changing to 40mm CTA In 2016 .
Cheers Ken
 
Hi this might sound stupid .here goes is it possible to have a cannelure in the middle of the drive band ????
 
Hi this came in a batch of two one had code markings on it. this one has no markings also came with CTA cases and some rarden TP-T , the chap I got this from reckons its from trials also he's sure it came from Dorset gunnery school Area ?????.
Cheers ken
 
ken68 said:
Hi this came in a batch of two one had code markings on it. this one has no markings also came with CTA cases and some rarden TP-T , the chap I got this from reckons its from trials also he's sure it came from Dorset gunnery school Area ?????.
Cheers ken
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What sort of CTA cases did it come with?
Dave.
 
I dont know dave its something i cant find out either ?? Just know its def not a homer and probably trials . Its really all the info i can get . Trials have been going on for years now so may never find out all the different projectiles etc maybe when they enter service there will be more info on them ??
Cheers Ken
 
Hi Ken,
as I also know where this projectile came from it could well be a unfinished example.....I picked up some 20mm Hispano plate test projectiles in various stages of completion from the same place also

Cheers
Tony
 
Cheers Tony very interesting . I think that has helped alot with this . Just makes me wonder if there was a fully completed one ??? Still a very nice part of my collection , with a bit of history in the making ??

Cheers Ken
 
Hi ive just got some feed back from Anthony G Williams from quarry.nildram He reckons its a Possible 40mm CTA HE practice projectile . so I am Happy with that !!!! it was mentioned on here by Dave that it could be the CTA trials . nice addition for the collection ,

thankyou guys for your input ..
 
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Dave,

The link you provided is on your harddrive, so nobody but you can access it.
If you have a cloud drive, upload the file there and paste the link in the thread,

S.
 
sgdbdr said:
Dave,

The link you provided is on your harddrive, so nobody but you can access it.
If you have a cloud drive, upload the file there and paste the link in the thread,

S.
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Sorted.
Thanks.
Dave.
 
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