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Japanese 6.5mm Arasake manufacturers
- Thread starter Rrickoshae
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many thanks for the fast response Pete, and yes I know, Arisake is a tongue in cheek play on words!
just a thought Pete, would the dates of the 'MA' round be western dates ie Oct 1915 or would these dates be according to the Chinese calender?
Dave
Dave
TonyE
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Those are some very nice finds, Rick, especially as your photograph appears to have been lifted directly from Ken Ellks first volume on Japanese SAA.
The full length brass dummy was issued in small numbers to British troops in early 1915 for training but I have not seen it elsewhere other than in the Woodin collection. As you probably know, I wrote the original volumes on Japanese Arisakas in British service, including air and sea service.
Prior to 1914, I don't believe the Japansese headstamped their ammo, but examples are so scarce it is difficullt to confirm. Certainly, none of the ones that came to us were.
Regards
TonyE
The full length brass dummy was issued in small numbers to British troops in early 1915 for training but I have not seen it elsewhere other than in the Woodin collection. As you probably know, I wrote the original volumes on Japanese Arisakas in British service, including air and sea service.
Prior to 1914, I don't believe the Japansese headstamped their ammo, but examples are so scarce it is difficullt to confirm. Certainly, none of the ones that came to us were.
Regards
TonyE
TonyE
HONOURED MEMBER RIP
Those are some very nice finds, Rick, especially as your photograph appears to have been lifted directly from Ken Ellks first volume on Japanese SAA.
The full length brass dummy was issued in small numbers to British troops in early 1915 for training but I have not seen it elsewhere other than in the Woodin collection. As you probably know, I wrote the original volumes on Japanese Arisakas in British service, including air and sea service.
Prior to 1914, I don't believe the Japansese headstamped their ammo, but examples are so scarce it is difficullt to confirm. Certainly, none of the ones that came to us were.
Regards
TonyE
The full length brass dummy was issued in small numbers to British troops in early 1915 for training but I have not seen it elsewhere other than in the Woodin collection. As you probably know, I wrote the original volumes on Japanese Arisakas in British service, including air and sea service.
Prior to 1914, I don't believe the Japansese headstamped their ammo, but examples are so scarce it is difficullt to confirm. Certainly, none of the ones that came to us were.
Regards
TonyE
hi, I've just been going back over an old post, see previous comments. Looking at the late TonyE's reply he seems to infer that one of the 2 rounds in the photo was a dummy. Does anyone know if he was referring to the one by arsenal 90 with the stab crimps to the primer? Or is he referring to one of those shown in the photo from zwerge? Or was the bit about the dummy round just a bit of background info and not relevant to my 2 rounds?
thanks, dave
thanks, dave
smle2009
Well-Known Member
They are both from Mukden arsenal anyway.... factory 90 was Mukden during the communist period but both of yours are from before then......the circle with two dots was from the Nationalist China period (communist China was a star within a circle)....on your MA version the 15 is year 15 (1924)...the other one is year 37 (1948)....they used the same year as the rest of us on the communist period ammunition.
Tony
Tony
ah, nice one Tony, that clarifies who the arsenal 90 was and the dates. Dave