French 105mm model 14

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Hi all,

I have a (I think) first war French Model 14 105mm Acier HE, but looking at "Notice sur les materiel handbook 1918" for the 105, it shows four variations, none of which match the shell I have.

My shell measures 421mm from base to top minus fuse.
Base to driving band measures 76mm.
Drive band width is 20mm.

My shell however has what looks to be a fuse adapter fitted, 9mm in height, hence the 421mm height. If I were to remove this, the height would be 412mm , which would match those shells in the Notice sur les materiels handbook.
My question is: Do I have a later (WW2) variation or an adaptation of a WW1 105mm shell.
As yet, I've found no stampings.

As I collect purely First war ordnance, I'm kinda hoping this is of that period.
Any help to disperse my anxieties would be greatly received!
Many thanks in advance.
D

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,

Typical French 105mm Schneider (WW1) with a special and expensive brass fuze Schneider model 1915. We found sometimes this round on ww1 battelfields but not very common in collection.

Regards.

 

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MINENAZ16, Thank you very much, you've come up trumps again as usual!
The info is spot on, and very interesting, so thanks, its much appreciated.
All my anxieties now vanished.....

 

[frijoles108]

Hi all,

I have a (I think) first war French Model 14 105mm Acier HE, but looking at "Notice sur les materiel handbook 1918" for the 105, it shows four variations, none of which match the shell I have.

My shell measures 421mm from base to top minus fuse.
Base to driving band measures 76mm.
Drive band width is 20mm.

My shell however has what looks to be a fuse adapter fitted, 9mm in height, hence the 421mm height. If I were to remove this, the height would be 412mm , which would match those shells in the Notice sur les materiels handbook.
My question is: Do I have a later (WW2) variation or an adaptation of a WW1 105mm shell.
As yet, I've found no stampings.

As I collect purely First war ordnance, I'm kinda hoping this is of that period.
Any help to disperse my anxieties would be greatly received!
Many thanks in advance.
D

I'm currently researching American ammunition potentially made for ww1 era purchases of French 105mm guns. Do you have a photograph of your projectile?

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I'm currently researching American ammunition potentially made for ww1 era purchases of French 105mm guns. Do you have a photograph of your projectile?

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Hi frijoles108,
Apologies for the huge delay! Just found your post..
Pics of French 105mm and Schneider fuse as requested. Many thanks!
(A bit all over the shop thanks to a temperamental PC.Sorry...)