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5cm pzgr 40 fake - reproduction

jeff w

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Does anyone doubt that this is a fake/reproduction? It was advertised as authentic. I am not an expert.
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Is the core tungsten? Why is there a step in the taper of the ogive?
 
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I agree, the core might not be fake, the rest definitely is

So, regarding the core, is it 21mm dia?, all 5cm Pzgr40 and Pzgr40/1 cores I think are 21mm.
....and of course is it Tungsten.
 
I am with the others on this one, its a fake, amounst other things the font is all wrong for the stamps.
Best regards Weasel.
 
Thanks all.
The seller is also advertising this as genuine 5cm German - not familiar with these but am pretty certain it is also incorrect;
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1st 5cm: terrible fake

2nd: The bottom part with core looks good, the upper parts are new made i say
 
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Hello Jeff. Your round does not look anything like the verified real one that I have. The nose should be Bakelite with an aluminum tip.
 
Original (5 cm BK panzergranate hartkern), the allumium parts and the metal ring are fake.


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Hello Jeff. Your round does not look anything like the verified real one that I have. The nose should be Bakelite with an aluminum tip.

Hi M8 - your referring to the first one (pzgr 40) right? Would you mind posting a pic of the tip?. When I was trying to verify it I was having trouble finding good pics.

And the Pzgr 40/1 - I could find no pics at all, just a line drawing, which was enough to convince me.
 
I can show you pictures of the body and the core. I had to make a reproduction nose out of aluminum. I had an accident with the nose; that make me so sick, I had to take a knee. I know it is original as I am the one who removed it from being crimped into the case.
 

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I can show you pictures of the body and the core. I had to make a reproduction nose out of aluminum. I had an accident with the nose; that make me so sick, I had to take a knee. I know it is original as I am the one who removed it from being crimped into the case.

Thanks for the pics - I appreciate it.
 
Hello Jeff. Your round does not look anything like the verified real one that I have. The nose should be Bakelite with an aluminum tip.

Bakelite with an aluminium tip I have never seen. Bakelite with a tip of metal sheet do exist (Type B). Type A had an alumium nose of which the hollow tip was filled with paper. There was also a hollow nose of alumium of which the space between the nose and the core was filled with moulded plastic. Don't know the type.
 

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And the Pzgr 40/1 - I could find no pics at all, just a line drawing, which was enough to convince me.

I have collected german ammo for over 30 years but I have never seen a Pzgr 40/1. Here drawings of types O and P from the Geschossringbuch.
 

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