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    Deeply interesting and clarifying a lot of things that puzzled me for long. Thanks a lot Akon!

    The General Staff counted on the air assistance of France in the invasion of Czechoslovakia, and for this purpose were prepared airports, ground supplies, ammunition, including bombs for French aicraft machines. The event was called by the code name "Units F"
    This may explain the presence of this French 100kg bomb found some years ago in the Váh river near Trenčín.
    The suspension is the original French suspension but the fuze looks somehow strange for such a French bomb (may be a AC10 German fuze or a Czech fuze?)
    French 100kg found in Vah river near Trencin Bomba.jpg French 100kg found in Vah river near Trencin P1010061.JPGFrench 100kg found in Vah river near Trencin P1010062.JPG
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    Hi Dreamk
    I understand that you do not know the history of the Czechoslovak Republic, there is no reason for that. You mixed pears with apples. After the establishment of the Czechoslovak Republic, I fought with Hungary and then with Poland (for simplification, it does not matter what the conflict was called - artillery and air force were used, including bombing). Thus, sometime around 1919, the French Air Squadron operated in Slovakia as part of the Czechoslovak Army. At that time, the Chief of Staff was a Frenchman. So this bomb in the photo is the original French from 1919 ... and not German. As you probably understand, the later planned French date back to 1938 ..
    By the way, are you a police officer that you have internal photos of ammunition from the findings?
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    https://expozice-ralsko.estranky.cz/.../odpovedi.html ......details of the finding are in the middle of the page

    The suspension is definitively not ww1 but of a type that was introduced in 1924 at the earliest (Alkan & Lesourd deposed their patent for this suspension system in 1924 together with the patents of their new system of bomb racks that were adopted by the French Amee de l'Air).

    The bomber component of the French squadron that intervened in Czechoslovakia in 1919 was made of Breguet XIV from Escadrille Bré.590 - and their standard equipment was Michelin bombs - not this kind of 100kg bomb.
    Michelin bombs.jpg

    Moreover this photograph shows that in fact on the Hungarian front the Breguet used mainly....ex-Austro-Hungarian bombs (here a Carbonit bomb in the hands on the soldier on the left, and a Skoda bomb being lift up - the third bomb on the right can be either)
    1919 helo5508.jpg
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    Did You consider Romanian royal army operating with the Red Army at the end of WW2?
    One such bomb was found in Moravia some time ago.
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    Last edited by Nabob; 6th November 2021 at 04:36 PM.
    any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel

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    Yes you're fully right Bob. I forgot the Romanians!
    The JRS79 bombers of the Romanian air force were equipped with French bombs - French 10kg, 50kg, 100kg and 500kg were definitively in use with the Romanian (there is photographic evidence for it) - 200kg also probably but no photo evidence till now. The Romanian Bloch 210 and Potez 543 were also equipped with French bombs but by the end of the war they were obsolete and no longer operational in front lines.

 

 
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