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    Red face My Collection Germany WW2

    Hello!
    I want to share with you my modest collection.
    All original! Just ub39 eihandgranate recovery.
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    Last edited by Gr.Fr; 9th September 2016 at 09:44 PM.

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    Maybe modest, but of high quality!
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    Hallo,
    your wooden mine, with a 5cm mortar round, is fuzed with a Z.Z.42. In the foto it looks as if the zz42 is screwd into the original bakelit-mortar-fuze. How has this been done ? The mortar fuze does not have a threaded hole, originaly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr.Fr View Post
    Hello!
    I want to share with you my modest collection.
    All original! Just ub39 eihandgranate recovery.
    Inert!

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    Hi,
    here some pics from the web. Maybe even from this forum.
    Clearly the fuze was profesionaly altered to hold the igniter.

    Bob
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    any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel

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    Hello, I didn't know Germans used their own ammunition to make "Behilfsminen", I thought these were always made with captured ordnance as the drawing sugests since it looks like a French 50mm mortar round. Very interesting indeed. Thank you.

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    Hallo,
    in the literature this type of mine is mostly described as russian. To me the mortar round looks like a 5cm german round. This was outdated already in 1939 and supplies were used only for training. The small size of this shell makes it perfect for using in a "Schuh"-type mine. Judging by the above posted fotos, all inner working parts of the WgrZ. T have been removed, a small upper ring sawed off and then a threaded liner glued in. This could have been done in any small workshop. Like this, otherwise useles ammo could be used to some effect.
    regards,
    Bellifortis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellifortis View Post
    To me the mortar round looks like a 5cm german round. This was outdated already in 1939 and supplies were used only for training.
    Bellifortis.
    Here a document that shows that the mortat was used as late as 1943.
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    any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel

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    Thanks Bellifortis, one never stops learning...

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    Nabob,This wooden ming from these places.
    Last edited by Gr.Fr; 13th September 2016 at 08:54 PM.

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    Nabob,Большое спасибо! Интересный документ!
    Last edited by Gr.Fr; 13th September 2016 at 08:54 PM.

 

 

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