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    37mm hotchkiss french-italian

    Hello,
    I want share with you this italian oddity
    as you can see shell was a french mod 1888 modified infuze hole and base;
    here close to mod 88
    IMG_9430 rid.jpg

    fuze is very similar to the one used on FIAT 25,4mm HE shell
    IMG_9428 rid.jpg

    Internal stucture completely different with twin security ( 25,4mm FIAT is the right one)
    IMG_9424 rid.jpg

    last element the base, completely new built and with alluminium cylinder screwd in, this system was used on other itlaian shell loaded with ballistite for hold detonator;
    in this pic close to 70/15 mod 1902 HE shell detonator holder
    IMG_9429 rid.jpg

    No info on this item, maybe never reach the mass production, could be a only a prototype.

    any info appreciated
    best regards
    www.cesimmunizioni.eu (Italian ECRA)

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    Hello Fert,

    Interesting modified shell.
    As you are a good specialist of Italian ordnance, I really can't help you.
    However the fuze looks like the same as the one used on this Italian 25mm (see pictures from a previous post).

    Regards

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    Hello MINEN,
    thank you, completely forgot this one. Unfortunely not in my hand for compare. But look same fuze
    thanks a lot!
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    French used as well a modified 37mm model 1888 with sensitive fuze and a tracer.

    Regards

    m1888 modified 1.jpgm1888 modified 2.jpgm1888 modified 3.jpgm1888 modified 5.jpg
    Last edited by MINENAZ16; 22nd April 2017 at 08:48 AM.
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    The French tracers were made by Semple in Pittsburgh U.S.A.

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