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unknown 47mm round

kiwieod

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a friend of mine has this 47mm round and is not sure what it is,dosent match any French,italian,japanese 47mm rounds
overall length 211mm
case length 158mm
rim dia. 64mm
case mouth 47mm
proj length including fuze plug 95mm
proj dia. 46.75mm

case stamp is the letter K in a circle.projectile appears to be a very well made replica from solid steel.he said there were 2 rounds the same
 

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found a 47x160R64.4 listed as German, no gun information. The 3 dot crimp and ring around the primer suggest Nordenfelt, who often did not stamp their heads. The projectile does look home made.
 
I got a russian 76,2 mm shrapnell with an uncommon fuze some days ago. This fuze is described as "22-sec aluminium time fuze made by Vickers Factory for 3-inch shrapnel" in the 1960 Ste. Petersburg artillery museum catalogue. The fuze is sitting in the original adapter which again has this "K"-circle stamp. Maybe there is some connection - at least it is also export ordnance. The fuze itself has several small "K" stamps, but without the circle around.
 
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The primer in this case looks like it is made to unscrew with a special wrench, certainly German looking with three indents. The space around it
looks deceptively Nordenfeltish ~ I think we should look to a German manufacturer or subcontractor for one of the larger
firms. If they made the other cases with the small primer then they made to order. As an example, German export 37x94 cases have the small primer.
After 1897 the screw in primer was used and only in 1915 was the export cases issued due to shortages briefly. So this same 47mm case type was made
in two patterns by the same firm. Was one for the German Military ? and the other export, certainly the screw in primer is more expensive and the user
would be counting on reusing these cases or it was a big expense not to. Well that's my guess.
 
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I think the screw-primer was added to the case later. Also the primer doesn't look German. But the primer measurements could be compatible to small German primers.
 
@Kiwieod: Thinking about the "K" stamp I forgot to answer your main question :tinysmile_shy_t:.

Your case sould be the same like the belgian case discussed here:http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threa...p-for-identify-this-shell?p=284781#post284781.

I wouldn't wonder if your 47 mm case was made for Belgium too because Belgium bought a lot of different cases abroad. For example belgian 57x224R or 75x278R can be found both from german and british manufacture. They made only a few cases in own factories like the "FN".
 
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alpini, I think your right,my case is exactly the same as the one in thread you linked to.probably correct about being an export case by polte as well.
 
Have a look at the most recent posting for a 15pr case, the Same K in a circle is present.
 
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