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Russian submunition 9N...

FZG76

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Hello everyone


a little post for enthusiasts. I am trying to clarify all the information on Russian submunitions type 9H or 9N.


Many speak of the 9N21 while it is called 9N210! It's written on the base ...


Can anyone clarify all this by referring to 9N 210, 22, 24, 230, 235 ...

RegardsDSC05814.JPGIMGP0595.jpg9H235.jpg
 
Hello everyone


a little post for enthusiasts. I am trying to clarify all the information on Russian submunitions type 9H or 9N.


Many speak of the 9N21 while it is called 9N210! It's written on the base ...


Can anyone clarify all this by referring to 9N 210, 22, 24, 230, 235 ...

Regards

9N22 is warhead, not submunition. On your phot 9N210 in normal.
 
We know 9H22 as a cargo rocket submunition with parachute.

Hm, interesting. Maybe you mean that 9N22 is sub for FROG-7. But I have not found correct russain language sources about it. I think could be that 9N22 is sub for rocket 9N18K and in the same time is warhead for rocket 9M22.
For example. warhead for 9M28S is 9N510; for 9M28F is 9N55 (information from official manuals).
 
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Yes for frog7 (maybe 9M21).
Not common warhead as 9M22 is 122mm diam. and 9N22 is 73.5mm.
 
Yes for frog7 (maybe 9M21).
Not common warhead as 9M22 is 122mm diam. and 9N22 is 73.5mm.

I did not play with cluster warheads for Frog-5 and do not know size of sub in warhead. And do not know who also was playing))
 
Hello,


I am certain of the 9H22 designation for submunitions. there are 42 in the head of the Frog. I worked on objects.


For 9H210, in France, the EOD called it 9H21 ... a mistake!

Normally, the difference between 210 and 235 would be the delay of the fuze.

Regards
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Is the 9N210 the same as the submunition out of the BM-30 SMERCH?
Or is it the 9N235 ?

Are the 9N210 & 9N235 similar in external dimensions?

THANK YOU!

~Will
 
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o-16-001.jpg9N24 fragmentation sub.jpgsub_munition handbook_Page_08.jpgo 10.jpgBLATT_III__Bomblets.jpg139.jpg152.jpgBLATT_II__Bomblets (1).jpgBLATT_I__Bomblets.jpg1BE3497E.jpg Here are a few of the subs being talked about I have some pretty good files on these. It appears that sometimes the letters being used are russian or perhaps english translation. And the nomenclatures may change with the weapon being used in. But that is just a thought on my part.
 
Right, firstly the 9N (9Н) bit.


Division 9 of the GRAU (ГРАУ) index code system covers Russian rocket and missile systems, along with their components.


The subdivision N (Н) is normally used for warheads. It also covers entire submunitions, which are simply classed a small warheads (BE, БЭ, Боевых Элемента, Boevykh Elementa, lit. combat elements). Submunitions within ‘Division 9’ are normally given a GRAU index code that starts with ‘9N2’ (9Н2).


Now the 9N22 bit.


The 9N22 is a submunition that is carried by the cargo/cluster/dispenser warhead that is designated 9N18K (9Н18К). The 9K18K carries 42 of these 9N22 submunitions. The ‘K’ in 9N18K is short for Кассетный, Kassetnyy, so Cassette in English.


The 9N18K arms the 540 mm 9M21K (9М21К) rocket, aka the FROG-7B using its NATO reporting name. The 9M21K is launched by the 9K52 Luna-M (9К52 Луна-М) system.


There are some images of the 9M21K rocket and the 9N18K warhead here.


https://missilery.info/gallery/rake...oennoy-artilleriyskoy-akademii-rossiya-gsankt


If there are any Russian grammar/spelling errors, hopefully ‘Ivanshkin’ will fix them for me.


Neil

PS I forgot to answer the original questions. The code 9Н210.01.000-184 seen on the 9N210 submunition is simply the designation of that subcomponent. It is common for Russian systems to have subcomponents designated like this. As far as I can tell it’s the designation for the base plug/plate of the 9N210.

The 9N235 is a variant of the 9N210. The 9N235 has two different preformed fragment sizes, the 9N210 just one. The 9N235 also has a different model fuze, explosive filling and explosive weight.
 
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Weberoed
Interesting images/documents.....Are they available as downloads or websites? What are the references?
 
View attachment 164279View attachment 164280View attachment 164281View attachment 164282View attachment 164283View attachment 164284View attachment 164285View attachment 164286View attachment 164287View attachment 164288 Here are a few of the subs being talked about I have some pretty good files on these. It appears that sometimes the letters being used are russian or perhaps english translation. And the nomenclatures may change with the weapon being used in. But that is just a thought on my part.

Thanks Mike, you are always a wealth of knowledge!

~Will
 
Many speak of the 9N21 while it is called 9N210! It's written on the base ...


Can anyone clarify all this by referring to 9N 210, 22, 24, 230, 235 ...

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Hello everyone


a little post for enthusiasts. I am trying to clarify all the information on Russian submunitions type 9H or 9N.

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge.

Could someone perhaps decipher the lot numbers on these munitions? A-IX-1 should be an explosive type. 1-74-121 is probably year of loading (1974) and 121 probably the munitions plant.

CTB-4-91 (STV-4-91) is probably the same: loaded in 91, STV probably the manufacturer code, but as far as I know virtually all Russian artillery launched submunitions were developed and produced by Splav in Tula.
 
View attachment 164279View attachment 164280View attachment 164281View attachment 164282View attachment 164283View attachment 164284View attachment 164285View attachment 164286View attachment 164287View attachment 164288 Here are a few of the subs being talked about I have some pretty good files on these. It appears that sometimes the letters being used are russian or perhaps english translation. And the nomenclatures may change with the weapon being used in. But that is just a thought on my part.


@Webereod, pictures 6/10 and 7/10 here are from a Splav brochure. Splav is a major Soviet / Russian rocket artillery and submunition manufacturer based in Tula, Russia. Could you or anybody else kindly share the rest of the document or let me know where I can get the rest of the brochure / document? I apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you in advance.

P.S. Images 6 and 7 show the large red Cyrillic logo of Splav on the top and a submunition.
 
Back in the early through mid/late 1990s the Russians put out a series of books/hard bound catalogs through a group called "Parade". At one time there were as many as seven volumes, updated roughly each year. The different volumes covered everything from ground ordnance to air ordnance, missiles, electronics, etc. Hard to find and expensive then, now? Each volume was at least 200-300 pages, so reproducing them would not be easy or cheap.
 
Back in the early through mid/late 1990s the Russians put out a series of books/hard bound catalogs through a group called "Parade". At one time there were as many as seven volumes, updated roughly each year. The different volumes covered everything from ground ordnance to air ordnance, missiles, electronics, etc. Hard to find and expensive then, now? Each volume was at least 200-300 pages, so reproducing them would not be easy or cheap.

US-Subs, thank you for the information. I shall take a look and see if I can share anything here on BOCN. If you or anybody else should find "Parade" catalogs, especially online, please share.
Any further information regarding publisher, etc. would be appreciated.

P. S. I just found this - "Russia's Arms" / "Voenniy Parad" which more or less translates to War Parade. Were you referring to this? Sadly, no information regarding the manufacturers is in here.

https://vdocuments.net/russias-arms.html?page=88
 
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It is the same series, spanning several years. The earlier volumes had a brief into describing the production facilities, their leadership, etc.
 
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