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    5cm Gerat 56 (Flak)

    I believe the pictures below show a shell case for the 5cm Great 56 gun and I would be grateful for confirmation from the experts on here. Mouth diameter is 50mm and length 461mm. My understanding is that only a prototype(s) of this gun were made so I assume from the markings that the case would be considered experimental. Can anyone explain the meaning of 'L1VI5821' ? Third picture shows the case next to a 5cm Flak 41.

    Thanks in anticipation.

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    Last edited by Burney Davis; 12th August 2018 at 02:43 PM.
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    Nice case, look forward to seeing what info comes up about it.
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    Wow, those are rare! According to my references the measurements would be 50x459R74 and exists in brass and steel, designated L1V1582 FlaK.
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    'L1VI5821' is listed as Gerät 58, with a case length of 462 mm.
    See list below under nr. 11.
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    Last edited by greif; 13th August 2018 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greif View Post
    'L1VI5821' is listed as Gerät 58, with a case length of 462 mm.
    See list below under nr. 11.
    Great original information Greif, many thanks. All the information that I could find on the net was that the Great 58 was 5.5cm in diameter. Does this mean that those references were not correct or is there such a gun? Your chart only shows 5cm Great 56 and 58 in 5cm calibre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burney Davis View Post
    Great original information Greif, many thanks. All the information that I could find on the net was that the Great 58 was 5.5cm in diameter. Does this mean that those references were not correct or is there such a gun? Your chart only shows 5cm Great 56 and 58 in 5cm calibre.
    The Gerät 58 was indeed in 5,5 cm calibre: the case measured 55 x 450B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Williams View Post
    The Gerät 58 was indeed in 5,5 cm calibre: the case measured 55 x 450B.
    Thanks Tony, I wonder why it doesn't appear on Greif's list.
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    It is listed as Gerät 58 b, with a case length of 452 mm.
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