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    Deep Bronze Green BS 381 24, BSC 381 224 (also called Dark Green or AM6) was the pre-war colour and standard early/mid war colour for steel ammo boxes. This changed to SCC2 Brown as mentioned in the attached linked document, then in late 1944 the Service Colour changed to SCC15, similar to, but not the same as US Olive Drab, though not sure any packaging was painted this colour. (It was adopted for vehicles so US kit didn't need repainting)
    https://rnzaoc.files.wordpress.com/2...let-1-1942.pdf
    I've a number of original ammo boxes displaying this colour.

    So according to this document DBG would be the approved colour for a steel box as used for the Release Switches. The switches appear a similar colour, with caveats above. I've seen nothing to suggest any were painted Olive Drab, and as manufacture appears to have stopped before the colour was introduced, it seems likely none ever were.

    British Army colour standardisation pre-dates WW1 and various manuals carry colour mixes from components from this era. WW1 kit was painted to standard colours, and I've seen paint matches from different pieces of original kit with hidden paint (no sun exposure) come up with near identical matches. Given that the ingredients varied in colour (e.g. linseed oil) it is clear they were looking to produce standard colours even then.

    That said, I can't get two tins of DBG to match from modern suppliers!!

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    Totally off topic, but the aforementioned website (https://rnzaoc.com) has a lot of information on the RNZAOC, its siblings and of course their parent, the RAOC. There's even a photo' of the Elizabeth Arden cosmetic that was the inspiration for the AT's trade badge.https://rnzaoc.com/2017/08/26/new-ze...-trade-badges/

    TimG
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    Quote Originally Posted by CartDorset View Post
    Anyone seen a box dated after 1943?
    I have a box from May 43 with 5 hinged switches with leaf springs and spring snouts. All switches wrapped in silk paper as seen in the photo.
    Switch_No. 3_Release Mk. I (2).jpg
    Switch_No. 3_Release Mk. I.jpg
    Last edited by Anders; 25th August 2018 at 06:00 PM.
    "All live or dug ordnance shown in my posts has been dealt with by qualified EOD personnel"

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    CRC - Cravens Railway Carriage and Wagon Co., Ltd. Darnall, Sheffield.

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    To summarise so far (with thanks to all those who have shared images in this thread and previously.)
    Switches are wrapped in paper (really grateful if either owner could post images of folds and the size of paper used as I will produce replicas for my display if you do)

    We have surviving the following boxes & contents
    Switches Release
    B&P Lot 184 10/42 - 6 part hinge, with one part "?" pins
    B&P Lot 187 11/42 - empty
    CRC Lot 561 5/43 - 5 part hinge, with one part "P" pins
    D Lot 458 5/43 - 5 part hinge , with one part "?" Pins
    CRC Lot 605 10/43 - empty
    CRC Lot ? ?/43 - empty

    Switch No.3
    B&P Lot 725 12/43 - empty

    Deductions from the above
    All boxes between 10/42 and 12/43 (14 months)
    At least 3 manufacturers and at least 1788 lots (using highest listed lot)
    If steady production rates, B&P making around 40 Lots/month, CRC around 9 Lots/month
    The Switch release becomes No.3 Switch c11/43

    Can others help further?
    Do you have a box not listed above you could post images of please?
    Anyone have a Release/No.3 switch NOT stamped A21 or A25 they can post images of? (Not sure that Millsbomber's box has this stamp - but image not quite sharp enough)
    Which manufacturer is "D"?
    How many boxes in a Lot?

 

 
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