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Unknown thing to me

Chris

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Ordnance approved
Hope somebody can help.

Length 140 mm
Diameter 18 mm

In the steel there is a bit of rubber (see last one)
On the bottom ist says: Made in West Germany

Regards,

Chris
 

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These look as rifle grenades, Chris - a German clone of the US ground signal parachute M17A1/M19A1/M21A1(first row second pic) maybe?
US Rifle Grenades WW2 Korea.jpg All_launched_items_2.jpg
Second pic Top row
Signal, Ground, White Star, Parachute, M17A1 = with white cover, embossed WP
Signal, Ground, Green Star, Parachute, M19A1 = with green cover, embossed GP
Signal, Ground, Amber Star, Parachute, M21A1 = with yellow cover, embossed AP
Signal, Ground, Red Star, Parachute, M51A1 = with red cover, embossed RP

second row from left to right
Grenade, Rifle, Smoke M19; Grenade, Practice M11A3; Grenade, Practice M11; Grenade, Rifle, Frag, Impact, M17; Adapter, Grenade, Projection, Chemical M2A1; Adapter, Grenade, Projection, M1; Sealed can with Grenade Cartridge Assortment.
 
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Chris,
there is some similarity to the Canadian sub-cal rocket for the LAW. Different device, but it may give you a different direction to pursue.
 
Oke thank you Jeff will have a look in that direction.
See you the 6th of november on the DutchEOD Soos?


Regards

Chris
 
Well Peter I think if he starts swimming today he can be in Holland on the 6th.

About the items, I personally think it has nothing to do with munitions brcause I have never seen any munitions that say made in west germany or made in the usa.

Chris
 
German export law requires that “Made in West Germany” or “Made in W. Germany” or “Made in Germany” appear on firearms. This usually appears on the magazine as well and reads for instance on Heckler & Koch pistols:
Made in W. Germany
HK Inc.
Trussville, AL or Columbus, GA
Older models may say Sterling, Chantilly or Arlington, VA or indicate SACO as the importer. Any other product not marked as above is not an official HK product and is not covered by HKI’s warranty.

Similarly, in the 1960s, Walther began stamping "Made in West Germany" on the frame of the PPK-L pistol right, below the magazine release button.

From 1949 (until today) "Made in Germany" was used again, but from ca. 1952-1955 "Made in Western-Germany" or "Made in West-Germany" was preferred to distinguish from GDR (East-Germany). But this was not compulsory and rather used at whim.

BTW The "Germany" or "Made in Germany" stamp on cartridge boxes, Luger pistols, etc., from Germany goes back long before WWII.

Similarly US tank shells such as the 120mm M829 APFSDS-T used by the Abrams and the Leopard II tanks are stamped on their basis "made in USA".
120mm_M829_APFSDS-T.png00120-_020.JPG
Reference: TM 43-0001-28 Army Ammunition Data Sheets
 
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Sorry Chris, really wish I could. It has been an interesting year, with not much time for anything. Work was very busy all summer, with the month of August having days running from 10-16 hours nearly every day. At the end of the month my wife went to the east (NC) to help out my daughter for six weeks, leaving me with the dogs. That was short lived, however, as my terminally ill brother asked if he could come by for a visit - to finish out his days. There has not been much time for anything lately, but have still picked up a bullet or two, will try to post later.

Oke thank you Jeff will have a look in that direction.
See you the 6th of november on the DutchEOD Soos?


Regards

Chris
 
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