2 Pounder AP types

[StielGr]

Although my collection is mainly all German anti-tank I like to have a few British equivalents for comparison.

On that note I have 2 different 2 pdr AP projectiles.
The first one is marked as an AP2PRVIT and the other as a AP2PRVT.

From my own observations it looks like the only difference is the tracer design on the base.

I recognise the Tracer stencil T with the half circle but what does the red circled 657 and 1329 mean?

Many thanks
PC

 

[beihan62]

Hi StielGr,I know very little about 2pdr,s but would I be right in thinking that the V is a Mk,5 and the VI is a Mk,6,I apologise if I am stating the obvious,
Regards,Don,

 

[Der Uhu]

StielGr thanks for your beautiful exhibits shown!
All models (Mk) AP 2pdr-only difference is the tracer design on the base.
I found 5 different types of tracer from the AP 2pdr.
The AP2PRVT design tracer different varieties of 1941 and 1942.

 

[StielGr]

Thank you Der Uhu. Yes Don I knew about the different marks it was just to find out more information.

I know there are plenty of 2 pounder experts on the forum so I would love to see pictures of the other Mk types please.

 

[Der Uhu]

Here's a photo:
To my regret I do not know the names of the models on the right.
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/80773-2-pr-shell-.

 

[RichardB]

Hi StielGr

I have a few of these at home (literally only a few as I don't collect each Mk), but off the top of my head I cannot remember the Mks I have.
I believe they went beyond Mk.X, but I'm also strangely short on 2PR documentation.

As for the Red Circled 657 and 1329 I think the stock, no brain engaged, reply would have been manufacturing LOT numbers being displayed in two different ways by differing manufacturers. I don't know for certain that's the case, but ill see what I can find when I get home and will post some more to this thread.

As you say there are some experts on this forum...so hopefully we can lure a few!

cheers

 

[tigbrand]

Hi SG, Nice shot, the left one going by the /C stencil and the stamped band seems to be Canadian. The meaning of the stencils I think?? can be found in the downloads section,in the Handbook of ammunition.(also in the inter service ammo handbook) All the marks of A/P shot Mks 1 to 8 and 10 have an integral stemmed cavity,but there are not mark numbers for these specifically,the shell MK nos relate to the shell as a whole,and seem to relate to minor design changes which obviously can include the trace element. There are various methods of filling,hence the different base cavities. If you have a shot with the external no 6 tracer it will be a practice shot.I will try to get some pictures of the various types over xmas to help confuse the issue more!

 

[StielGr]

Thank you Richard and also Der Uhu again for the pictures.

I had assumed that the red circled number had more meaning than a lot number but I am more used to german stuff where everything is standardized and much easier to follow.

PC