42mm Nordenfelt

[MiguelMaxim]

Inert, sand filled.

 

[highlandotter]

Thanks for showing. just got one like it a week ago, this confirms my ID.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,

Which country used this shell (and Era ?) ?

Thanks

 

[Burney Davis]

View attachment 94701View attachment 94702View attachment 94703View attachment 94704Inert, sand filled.

A lovely round Miguel, what is the case length?

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[MINENAZ16]

I found this :

 

[highlandotter]

Spain,,for sure. Probably others as most Nordenfelt rounds are un marked, Tlme use late 1890's, early 2000's. Many in US come from Spanish-American War of 1898.

 

[highlandotter]

Hello Minenaz16. Do you have illustration sheets for 38mm,40mm,and 47mm Nordenfelt rounds like the one you jus posted? I would really appreachate it if you could post them, Thanks, Gerald, highlandotter and 57mm also!!

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,

Only this diagram from the web (IAA forum) :




Regards

 

[Gspragge]

Nordenfelt 42mm Common Shell

Here is another one I know of, a Common Shell as opposed to the pointed penetrating kind. If I recall the projectile is marked PA the case has the Maxim Nordenfelt monogram.
I forget how the fuze was marked.

 

[highlandotter]

Thanks. there are at least 3 kinds of 38mm cases,

 

[bdgreen]

Highlander,

Here is a source for the diagrams posted by Minenaz16:

http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12570&p=89727
http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12571&p=89744
http://iaaforum.org/forum3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12572

 

[MiguelMaxim]

Sorry but I don't have the case. The picture with the case shows the hand of my brother in law, my incredible brother in law, who found these complete shell and didn't buy for me in a flea market...I hate deeply all around brothers in law from then. My shell has no marks and the base has an iron plug. Some black paint on the shell. The 42mm Nordenfelt was common in the Spanish navy small ships of the XIX century, specially in Cuba, the Phillipines, Puerto Rico, Mediterranean sea and the spanish Pacific islands.

 

[Gspragge]

Here is the Navel 42mm gun. There is also a Mountain gun which has a lower MV so uses a different casing.

 

[fert]

Hi,
Italy too used this gun first in fortificationa and after as trench gun.
this is a gun stored in SMAL (=military factory light guns) of Terni




comon shell and his fuze are marked with N, I think Nordenfeldt. In last pic the italian color code, CN means black powder loaded. A practce round with wood shell was also made.


fuze mod 1889 and transit plug



Production of cases seems only made by MB, Metallurgica Bresciana. Lorenz Brevettato Tempini it's an earlier marking onf MB.

best regards

 

[highlandotter]

My case lenght is 260mm. I have another wiht copper pointed projectile that also is 260mm.

 

[highlandotter]

When I get my computer back from shop, I will send you photos of my 7 Nordenfelts, 38,42,47 and 57mm. Thanks for you posts, Gerald, the Otter

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hello Fert,

Do you have the diagram of the Italian APHE you shown ?


Thank you.

 

[fert]

Hi MINEN,
unfortunely not.
I think this shell was not adopted. Construction is not italian sttandard. It was find in Italy some years ago, my guess is this is an early forniture by Nordenfeldt as a sample to test guns. Also marking are not italian fashion.
best regards

 

[MINENAZ16]

Thank you Fert.

 

[jestertoo]

I modeled the 42x260R APHE projectile. It was from a picture, using calipers and ratios.. If someone has real measurements, let me know.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4384467