8.8cm question

[US-Subs]

Can anyone explain the paint to me? It appears to be original, but what does the bare forward half signify? In addition, I have two other 88s with MT fuzes. While this fuze fits easily in and out of its projectile, neither of the MT fuzes will thread in. Looks the same by eyeball, but acts as though it is a different pitch.

 

[wingsofwrath]

The shell is definitely Finnish, since I have seen shells exactly like it and with the same style of markings, but I can't tell you why they decided to only paint half of it.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Not sure about the Finnish re-use (I know different specific markings for finnish 8.8). Norway also used german shells after ww2 and maybe other countries.
I'm very interested by this question because I have a 10.5cm L/4.4 with same paint and markings.








10.5cm with unpainted head on this picture (Norway ?) : http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNGER_41-45_skc32.php

 

[Alpini]

It's the usual German 2nd WW naval paint scheme. Also the ink stamps are of German origin. Finish ink stamps are much different.

hlu = powder factory "Gesellschaft zur Verwertung chemischer Erzeugnisse m.b.H, Werk Hessisch - Lichtenau"
ktz = powder factory "Deutsche Sprengchemie, Werk Klietz (later it became a WASAG factory)"

 

[flak18]

It's the usual German 2nd WW naval paint scheme. Also the ink stamps are of German origin. Finish ink stamps are much different.

hlu = powder factory "Gesellschaft zur Verwertung chemischer Erzeugnisse m.b.H, Werk Hessisch - Lichtenau"
ktz = powder factory "Deutsche Sprengchemie, Werk Klietz (later it became a WASAG factory)"

For U boat ??

 

[Alpini]

For any gun. There was only one paint scheme

 

[greif]

Unpainted upper parts of the shell body are found with German naval 8,8 cm and 10,5 cm HE and practice shells. The manual M.Dv 170/16 gives the reason why and that was to prevent the time setting machines getting polluted by paint particles. I suspect that it was done because for these calibers the German navy used time setting machines in which the cartridges were inserted horizontally, thus scraping off paint from the ogive.

Early shells were painted overall. The manual M.Dv 188/II-2 gives an unpainted (=farbfrei) upper part of 160 mm for the 8,8 cm shell bodies and 142 mm for the 10,5 cm shell bodies .

 

[flak18]

Unpainted upper parts of the shell body are found with German naval 8,8 cm and 10,5 cm HE and practice shells. The manual M.Dv 170/16 gives the reason why and that was to prevent the time setting machines getting polluted by paint particles. I suspect that it was done because for these calibers the German navy used time setting machines in which the cartridges were inserted horizontally, thus scraping off paint from the ogive.

Early shells were painted overall. The manual M.Dv 188/II-2 gives an unpainted (=farbfrei) upper part of 160 mm for the 8,8 cm shell bodies and 142 mm for the 10,5 cm shell bodies .

Thank you all for this info. What a fabulous site this is....brilliant

 

[wingsofwrath]

For any gun. There was only one paint scheme

Interesting, I know little about naval matters so I thought that shell was Finnish because that what was told to me and it was on a Finnish Flak 88 casing. Turns out I was misinformed. Thanks for sorting this out.