What's new
British Ordnance Collectors Network

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Carruthers Percussion Grenade

Snufkin

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Another not overly abundant British WWI experimental percussion grenade, this one was created by Frank James Chambers Carruthers, an independent inventor from Dumfries, Scotland.

It was both hand and rifle grenade, but also in the latter mode could be launched by both blank and ball rounds. A central hollow bore was terminated with a brass cap which was sufficiently robust to contain the blast from a blank round, while being thin enough to allow a bullet to pass through without destroying the grenade; it was not a bullet trap as such. It proved of interest to the Munitions Inventions Department (which was also working on the concept of a bullet-through grenade) to the extent that in March 1918 it reported "Grenades, Carruthers and MID - Drawings have been prepared and issued for experimental models to be made." The example shown is probably one of those models.

To use, the safety pin was pulled and the grenade thrown, or fired from a rifle using a discharger cup, whereupon the 18-inch weighted tape unwound and fell away. This left the bottom square section of a steel-lead T-shaped weight precariously locked by the sharp lower edge of the circular steel body of the coaxial firing pin, under the force of a strong compression spring. Shock of impact dislodged the weight and allowed the firing pin to hit the percussion cap of the detonator, and set off the grenade. Images show the partially stripped grenade with armed striker (T weight in place), then fired, finally fully disassembled. The base view shows filler hole, detonator sleeve, and central bore.

A comparison image shows the Carruthers with the French VB rifle grenade, and it interesting that the body diameter of both grenades is exactly the same, at 49.7mm, suggesting that the Carruthers grenade was made to allow testing from the French discharger cup. The bullet channel of the VB is 8.9mm diameter, that of the Carruthers is 8.0mm so not useable with a Lebel rifle. However, MID reports have this summary (without explaining the mechanics of attaching a French discharger cup to a British rifle):

"A comparative test with the French 'VB' 50mm bulletted-round grenade gave the following results: French rifle ammunition and cup, mean range 201 yards. SMLE rifle ammunition and French cup, mean range 130 yards."

Ultimately the Carruthers was an experimental novelty, with the primary interest being able to use both blank and ball ammunition for launching. The danger of blinds (use of a knife-edge suspended weight in combination with spring loaded firing pin) was of secondary concern and it is unlikely many, if any, were actually filled.



Tom.
 

Attachments

  • DSC03036.JPG
    DSC03036.JPG
    238.4 KB · Views: 43
  • DSC03034.JPG
    DSC03034.JPG
    250.5 KB · Views: 30
  • DSC03033.JPG
    DSC03033.JPG
    266.8 KB · Views: 31
  • DSC03032.JPG
    DSC03032.JPG
    256.9 KB · Views: 34
  • DSC03031.JPG
    DSC03031.JPG
    244.4 KB · Views: 33
  • DSC03027.JPG
    DSC03027.JPG
    255.5 KB · Views: 39
  • DSC03029.JPG
    DSC03029.JPG
    187.5 KB · Views: 34
It is Carruthers in the MID reports and on his patents, and Carruthers is a Dumfriesshire (Lowland Scottish) Clan name. It would appear from his home address that he was one of that Clan.
 
This is an interesting development from his patent of July 1916 - No 125420, which has a different shape grenade without the bullet through hole. It looks like Carruthers revised his design either after discussions with the MID or on seeing the VB grenade. There were two versions in the original patent, a timed version and a percussion version.


Photo of his original design.

DSCN7718.jpg
 
The tests of the Carruthers bullet-through grenades (several variants were produced) were carried out at the Claremont Park experimental ground. During EOD clearance, the item shown was recovered and a section made. Having a different body shape to the example in the original post, and a different design of internal striker-retaining weight, the remains of a detonator are evident, but there was no explosive filling. Tests of experimental grenades, particularly percussion grenades, were often carried out with just a detonator, and in the section shown the striker has not impacted the percussion cap.


Many thanks to Bonnex for providing the images of the sectioned relic.
 

Attachments

  • Carruthers CP_1.jpg
    Carruthers CP_1.jpg
    173.1 KB · Views: 27
  • Carruthers CP_2.jpg
    Carruthers CP_2.jpg
    217.2 KB · Views: 30
  • Carruthers CP_3.jpg
    Carruthers CP_3.jpg
    142.9 KB · Views: 27
Maybe Carruthers went along the same development lines as Daniels & Gardiner? Many different versions, a similarity to the Humphreys tape design and in the end no contract!
 
Grenade invention and design proved not to be very rewarding for independent British engineers and inventors, other than for Marten Hale and William Mills. Certainly some of the experimental percussion grenade developments caused their inventors significant outlay for no ultimate financial reward, as with the Daniels & Gardiner series.

There was an independent engineer by the name of Percy Craven from London who worked during WWI on improvements for grenades, including percussion grenades (e.g. patent No. GB137602A of 1919). His perseverance was boundless, and he continued working on grenades - at his own expense - until the late 1930s, by which time he was nearly 80 years old. In December 1937 the War Office Committee on Awards to Inventors voted him £100 as a gesture of goodwill, although none of his ideas or inventions had actually been adopted. Whilst perhaps a pleasing token, it was hardly pay back for his efforts over the previous 20+ years.
 
I did wonder if the MID actually approved anything sent in by inventors?

Craven was exceptionally persistent. A true patriot.
 
Top