French 37mm Mod 1877/1888?

[chispa]

Hi guys! Can you confirm if it is a 37mm French mod 1877/1888? The horizontal stripes confuse me...






It has a false fuze.






Thanks greetings!!

 

[MINENAZ16]

Herewith 2 french 37mm M 1877/1881 (brass or copper band)

 

[chispa]

Thanks MINENAZ16, I only had the model on the left located, well... well we have a problem... I have cleaned it from the back (which is the worst) and it seems to be brass!, so there is another one more version or (most likely) a funny person modified the piece to make it look like the copper one.... although the bumps that can be seen are after the grooves... What do you think? I attach a photo I hope it can be clearly distinguished in color...

I add that mine is like the one on the left where you can see the turning of the projectile.

 

[MINENAZ16]

I think it's only a question of method of attaching the band (soft brass) and cannelures underneath, on the shell.
Example (first photo) : one side without grooves and the other side with grooves on the same band.



AP

 

[chispa]

So, can we consider it original, even if the lines are not perfect?
Another thing... are these types of documentation PDFs or books? I locate files but they don't have such good image quality... Thank you!

 

[37bis]

Here is a projectile with missing tape.The thin sheet of brass constituting the strip being fragile, the grooves of the shell appear in relief when the sheet has been pressed on these grooves.

 

[bdgreen]

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MINENAZ16,

Can you provide the source for this drawing? Thank you.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Sorry I can't remember where I found this drawing. I have it in my files as 37mm Model 1877 (without crimp groove).
I just found this one on the internet (same early Hotchkiss Mle 1877).

 

[wingsofwrath]

Sorry I can't remember where I found this drawing. I have it in my files as 37mm Model 1877 (without crimp groove).
I just found this one on the internet (same early Hotchkiss Mle 1877).

The original drawing comes from "Aide-Mémoire d'Artillerie Navale. Planches. 3e Livraison 1878, chapitre 1-Bouches à feu" ("Notes on Naval Artillery. Drawings. 3rd Edition 1878, chapter 1-Ordnance"). Unfortunately, it's not available online and the actual posted image comes from this thread, in French.

 

[kz11gr]

Hello

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La cartouche de 37 mm modèle 1877 du canon-revolver Hotchkiss de Marine

Bonjour chers amis collectionneurs et autres passionnés d'artillerie. J'ai récemment pu mettre la main sur une cartouche que je n'avais encore jamais rencontré.

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La cartouche de 37 mm modèle 1877 du canon-revolver Hotchkiss de Marine - Page 2

L'avantage est sûrement à la "mitrailleuse", quand le tir tendu est possible, mais quand l'adversaire est retranché/enterré, un obus de mortier peut-être bien p

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