French Hotchkiss 25mm

[spotter]

French Hotchkiss 25mm....thats as much as i know,should it have a driving band ??
Anymore info is welcome on this round cutaway drawings,what used with etc etc
thanks spotter

 

[spotter]

managed to find some info on site
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/25x163-hotchkiss-he-t4034.html?highlight=hotchkiss

but please feel free to ad more info
cheers spotter

 

[Falcon]

There was no driving band on this type of projectile, it is unusual as it is more like a large rifle calibre AP round with a jacket and a hardened steel core.

 

[spotter]

thanks for confirming that it had no driving band falcon

 

[Grenademan2005]

Hi:
These were used in the Spanish Civil War and after in the WWII.

 

[doctor]

25mm

Hi
Picture 1: for 25 mm CA Mle 38, 39,40 DCA
Steel case 25 Mle 34 P
brass case 25 HE Mle38
25 HE T Mle 39
25 mle 38 Reduced range

For Gun SA 25 mm Mle 34 and 37 A.T.
25 Mle 34 PT green point
25 Mle 34 P black point
25 Mle 34 Reduced range

Pictures 2 and 3 Magazine charging

 

[Grenademan2005]

WOW, nice selection! Congrats. :congrats:

 

[Falcon]

Doctor, where the inert practise projectiles for the 25mm Hotchkiss AA round originally painted, or were they left plain?

 

[Grenademan2005]

What is the diference between the short and larger case? Could both cases use the same shells?

 

[doctor]

Hi
Not the same use and so not the same gun (AA or AT)

 

[Grenademan2005]

Explain more, please. Long case is for AT only with AP shell? Or can use the HE shell? And short case? oh:

 

[doctor]

Hi
Not the same type bullet for AT
There is not HE bullet used on AT Case
On my 1 post, the 2 pictures , you have all possibility of assembled case we can found
You can see there is not HE shell for AT cases
There is an other type of case not on the picture used in Marine Gun
No data of it

 

[Grenademan2005]

Then the short case is for use in the magazines and with a different gun than the long case?

 

[doctor]

That right
You have a good picture of 25 AA Gun page76 in Anti Aircraft artillery book fromV Hogg and page 158 an hotchkiss 25mm AT of Allied Artillery book from V Hogg
25 mm AT are in box of 40 round or 12 in metalic box

 

[Grenademan2005]

Thank you for your help. :tinysmile_shy_t:

 

[ydnum303]

25mm Drill Round

Hi all,
Have found this a most interesting thread. Apparently we Brits used this round in the very early stages of WW2, until the ammo was all used up. I have a couple of (inerted) rounds in my collection, but I have never seen a Drill round. Were any ever made, and if so, has anybody seen one?

 

[fificat]

Doctor--Can you post a pic of the boxes the AT 25mm Hotchkiss ammo came in? Thanks for taking the time to look at this.

 

[Hoeksel]

Hi all,

I love these Hotchkiss rounds, but never knew the Britisch used them. Recently a ammo case was up for sale, but I don't collect cases. Here are my round from left to right:
- steel, German
- brass, German, HE
- Japanese, HE
- French, practice short range
- French, practice
- French, HE
- French, experimental (anybody has more info? I have 1 reference with this projectile on the case right of it, but nothing else)
- French, experimental AA case
- French, blank round

 

[Grenademan2005]

Charge Forte.

 

[fificat]

Green tip 25mm Hotchkiss AT Ammo and ammo boxes

I have seen reference to green tip 25mm AT ammo. Any good pics of this? Also, would this have been the round used against a tank? Doc made reference to boxes of 40 rounds, and I wonder if anybody has any pics of these? Thanks for your time and expertise in looking at this.

Between 2008 and now, a man in Colorado had a 25mm Hotchkiss AT gun, that he regularly shot, and then sold. At the time he had 80 original rounds of green tipped ammo, 64 of which was still in original boxes. He never took any pics of the boxes or ammo, and I can't so far get in touch with the new owner.

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