German 3.7cm Pak (t)

[StielGr]

Just new in.
Two very good condition German stamped cases for the Czech 3.7cm Pak. The German case headstamp has the M34 whereas the Czech was stamped vz34.

There is a very interesting stencil mark on the side of the cleaner case. Near the bottom it is marked "Skoda" which I have never seen on these cases before. It looks like it was fitted with a Pzgr 37 (t) projectile.

What was the difference between a Pzgr 34 (t) and a 37 (t) projectile?

Many thanks
PC

 

[Tmine35]

Nice cases PC.
After a quick look at H.Dv.481/127 Pzgr 34 ( t ) and Pzgr 37 ( t ) both have typical Czech driwing bands with several grooves, BUT Pzgr 34 (t ) umg has a typical German broad plain band without grooves. Geschossrignbuch from 1943 lists only the last version. I assume this is what Germans made and the other types were original ones used as long as they were.

 

[Tmine35]

Sorry, took it too fast. The manual shows 3 dirrerent cartridges; 3,7 cm Pzgr. Patr. 34 (t), 3,7 cm Pzgr. Patr. 34 (t) umg and 3,7 cm Pzgr. Patr. 37 (t) BUT only 2 projectiles; Pzgr 34 (t) and Pzgr 34 (t) umg - so, no 3,7 cm Pzgr 37 (t) in this manual.
Projectile datas are the same for all 3 cartridges but powder weight of the last one is 20% higher ( 151 grams and 180 grams )

 

[StielGr]

Thank you for the reply Reino.

The Pzgr. Patr. 37 (t) is in the Dienstvorschrift 435/1. The only difference shown there between the 37 (t) and the 34 (t) is the 37 (t) has a red tip.

What does the red tip mean?
Is it just a big charge in the case and nothing else?

PC

 

[genkideskan]

Thats somewhat puzzling. The 435/ 3 manual about color codes and markings explaines the red tip and red cap. There is a AP 34 (t) with black cap id as - made befor sep 1939. The entire projo is painted black at 34(t) AP made after sep 1939.
The 37 (t) made befor sep 1939 has a red cap and the one made after sep 1939 has a red TIP.
The red marking was used to mark the 37 (t) cartridge.

 

[StielGr]

Thank you for pointing me towards the right manual
The 34(t) and the 37(t) was the same projectile but fitted to a different charged case.

Then there was a 37 (t) with a white ring for tracer.