Interesting 90mm RCL case from Sweden

[charley777]

Hello...just received this case from the 90mm KAFT RCL anti-tank gun.
It surely has the longest neck of any cartridge case...
Base to shoulder is 260mm
Base to neck is 340mm
Overall length 760mm
So neck length is 420mm !
Base diameter is 124mm
System use an electric primer on side of case.
There is a location slot for primer alignment.
Various stampings are there...probably been reloaded a few times.
For comparison the last photo shows it with 90x600R US case ,
90x598R French case (also with a fairly long neck) , 90x353R Cockerill

 

[rcaf53]

90mm RCL case from Sweden

:tinysmile_twink_t2: Thanks for shareing

 

[rcaf53]

90mm RCL case from Sweden

:tinysmile_twink_t2: Thanks for shareing your data, I am getting some top notch photos from BOCN
Thanks to all
Frank

 

[SG500]

Nice case thanks for showing it.
Dave.

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

One very loooong neck

Very nice case as well as the others.
See what you mean about the neck as it really is the longest one I have seen.
Thanks for showing us.

 

[charley777]

But did Jane's get this wrong?
In their books they seem to illustrate this round but describe it as 90x610R
Nor seem to mention that it is recoilless. Hmm. Maybe a correct entry with wrong picture ? Any Swedish ammo or RCL experts have anything to say ?

 

[Carlos]

This is an old thread, but new to me (as I'm a new-commer to the site). I think I found a photo of the rare expiramental gun for which this round was designed. I'll try to post the .jpg from an add I saw on Ebay, but I'll also post the link to the (sadly temporary) add. Maybe a more computer-savy member could make the photo permanent here on BOCN? Hope this works: LINK: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tank-Killer...56855?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item231965caf7

 

[EOD]

For those interested:

 

[EOD]

Here some diagram of the ammunition:

http://www.soldf.com/pvpj1110.html


The gun I forgot:

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?43408-Recoilless-Pvpj-1110

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansarv%C3%A4rnspj%C3%A4s_1110

 

[charley777]

Thanks for the new info and images , EOD and Carlos..... (-:

 

[bdgreen]

Here are some more photos, from the photo files of the Digitalt Museum (Sweden), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/ . (According to the Museum all of the photos are available for public use, but cannot be used for commercial purposes.)
The Museum web sight was discussed here on BOCN: http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/90086-Swedish-ordnance

If anyone wants to provide translations of the descriptions please do so!

Below are the Museum descriptions provided with each photo:


1) Utbildningsplansch (Sakord), Utbildningsplansch Ammunition till 9 cm pansarvrnspjs 1110 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...ingsplansch&search_context=1&count=222&pos=14

2) 9 cm laddblindpatron m/1959 (Sakord), 9 cm laddblindptr m/1959 iptrhylsa dbl. (Alternativtnamn), Laddblindpatron m/1959 till 9 cm pansarvrnspjs 1110 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...uery=9+cm+&search_context=1&count=74052&pos=8

3) 9 cm patrontub m/1972 (Sakord), Tub m/1972 till 9 cm pansarvrnspatron till pansarvrnspjs 1110 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...ery=9+cm+&search_context=1&count=74052&pos=19

4) Patronhylsa m/1953 (Sakord), Ptrh, 9 cm m/59. (Alternativtnamn), 9 cm patronhylsa m/1959 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...m+&search_context=1&page=2&count=74052&pos=46

5) Patron m/1959 (Sakord), Patron m/1959, pansarvrns-.Kal 9 cm. sprljuspansarsprnggranat (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...m&search_context=1&page=7&count=74079&pos=147

 

[bdgreen]

More photos:

6) Sprljusprojektil m/1961 (Sakord), Sprljusprojektil m/1961, 9 cm (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...m+&search_context=1&page=5&count=74052&pos=96

7) 9 cm granat m/1962 (Sakord), 9 cm sprljuspansargranat m/1962, med riktadsprngverkan, till pansarvrnspjs 1110 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...nsarvärnspjäs&search_context=1&count=17&pos=8

8) Sprljusvningsprojektil m/1962 (Sakord), vningsgranat (Alternativtnamn), 9 cm sprljusvningsprojektil m/1962 frpansarvrnspjs 1110 (Preciseratsakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...sarvärnspjäs&search_context=1&count=17&pos=13

9) Kanon (Sakord), 4527 (Alternativt namn), Pvkanon m/1110 (Preciserat sakord), Pv-pjs (Preciserat sakord), http://www.digitaltmuseum.se/things...+mm&search_context=1&page=6&count=264&pos=135

 

[ozziammo]

90mm RCL Sweden

I am amazed at what information BOCN provides, I had previously posted a thread asking what this projectile was (I thought it was a proj. because of the rifling marks), but couldn't figure out what. Now because of this new thread I know, you would not believe it but I even have a cart. for it & now the two items are living together happily ever after.

Thanks everyone, another mystery solved!

Regards Ozzi.

 

[bdgreen]

Ozzi,

That's fantastic!

Does anyone else have a projectile, cartridge case, training/drill cartridge they can show?

Brian

 

[Spaceinvader]

There was just recently a a "trench art set" of 3 casings with wood projectiles on ebay. If I remember correctly 2, 25 pounder casings, and an unknown casing. I was going to buy the large casing but the guy never responded. It was said it was some kind of RCL casing, but no idea other than that. Now I know! Same casing, polished and in good condition. What do these casings go for?