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Interesting piece
- Thread starter jvollenberg
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Fuzeman
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Its not a British bomb fuze , it looks more Artillery fuze , manufactured by Vickers
Thanks
Thats what we thought here. But couldn't find anything one way or the other.
Joe
Thats what we thought here. But couldn't find anything one way or the other.
Joe
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Fuzeman
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Cant find out anyhing in the Treatise of ammunition 1915 or 1936 , looking at the picture it appears to a No 80 type fuze with an extention piece added , but for what purpose ! to explode just above the ground / target ?
Interesting
And to make it more interesting is the timing ring. If it was a PD type fuze I could see the extention for above ground burst or milli-second delay, however it looks to be timed. Also that extention has a ring in the front for possible arming?
Joe
And to make it more interesting is the timing ring. If it was a PD type fuze I could see the extention for above ground burst or milli-second delay, however it looks to be timed. Also that extention has a ring in the front for possible arming?
Joe
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Fuzeman
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Hi Joe
It could be a stock fuze , rather than produce a special , they used a common fuze around at the time its cheaper
It could be a stock fuze , rather than produce a special , they used a common fuze around at the time its cheaper
Hummm
Thanks, You could be right and given the lack of markings there is really no way of telling. I found it especially interesting the det / booster hole in the base. Not much of a size there. If anyone finds out anything please let me know.
Joe
Thanks, You could be right and given the lack of markings there is really no way of telling. I found it especially interesting the det / booster hole in the base. Not much of a size there. If anyone finds out anything please let me know.
Joe
Chris 42 RQ
Well-Known Member
Demolition charge.
When visiting the forts in Jersey one of the larger forts had some 21.cm HE shells suspended by a cable some ten feet from the top along the outer walls, these shells were fitted with a modified Fuze that was connected to another shorter line going to a safety pin, when the supposed enemy got near some poor soldier would cut the suspension cable thus dropping the shell until the shorter cable pulled out the safety pin with a resulting detonation.
I wonder if that is what is shown here but with a subtle difference-a delay has been added ?
When visiting the forts in Jersey one of the larger forts had some 21.cm HE shells suspended by a cable some ten feet from the top along the outer walls, these shells were fitted with a modified Fuze that was connected to another shorter line going to a safety pin, when the supposed enemy got near some poor soldier would cut the suspension cable thus dropping the shell until the shorter cable pulled out the safety pin with a resulting detonation.
I wonder if that is what is shown here but with a subtle difference-a delay has been added ?
interesting
Observations; on the base does the 22 refer to the delay as the setting ring goes to 22 seconds? But if you look the fuze is set at safe by the ring positions so why have the extra safety cross pin or is it belt and braces. Surely to set the time ring would be an un nescessary delay in preparing the booby trap. The /24 looks like the year of manufacture, was there a similar product for WWI? or WWII? 2pr
Observations; on the base does the 22 refer to the delay as the setting ring goes to 22 seconds? But if you look the fuze is set at safe by the ring positions so why have the extra safety cross pin or is it belt and braces. Surely to set the time ring would be an un nescessary delay in preparing the booby trap. The /24 looks like the year of manufacture, was there a similar product for WWI? or WWII? 2pr
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Fuzeman
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Hi Chris the fort was Ft Orguel if i remember correctly, they were French shells with a modified fuze adaptor to fit a ZZ35 , called Roll bombs in Guernsey , they were suspended from cliff tops
Hello,
as much as I know of, there has been some modified artillery fuzes made in the 20's for illum. and cluster bombs by adding a modified tip assembly to regular artillery fuzes. The loop on top was attached to a lanyard to the plane. There was an additional safety ring in-between (there are still some remains of it to see on the image.) Pulling the lanyard after the safety pin was released will disengage a cocked striker system which fires the primer activating the time ring compound.
Mrfuze, USA
as much as I know of, there has been some modified artillery fuzes made in the 20's for illum. and cluster bombs by adding a modified tip assembly to regular artillery fuzes. The loop on top was attached to a lanyard to the plane. There was an additional safety ring in-between (there are still some remains of it to see on the image.) Pulling the lanyard after the safety pin was released will disengage a cocked striker system which fires the primer activating the time ring compound.
Mrfuze, USA
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Not sure I can add anything of immediate value other than pictures of the one I have. This is a range relic, but earlier than the one Joe shows in his picturesThe fuze is a no 80 Mk XI with the cap replaced with an extension piece. I have also added a picture of what is inside the nose extension and the size of hole at the tip.
One thing that may be helpful is the RL number on this piece - 29541. Can you identify from this Norman/Erhard?
The brass ring that the fuze is sitting in looks original to the fuze but I don't recognise it as part of a shell of bomb.
BD
Not sure I can add anything of immediate value other than pictures of the one I have. This is a range relic, but earlier than the one Joe shows in his picturesThe fuze is a no 80 Mk XI with the cap replaced with an extension piece. I have also added a picture of what is inside the nose extension and the size of hole at the tip.
One thing that may be helpful is the RL number on this piece - 29541. Can you identify from this Norman/Erhard?
The brass ring that the fuze is sitting in looks original to the fuze but I don't recognise it as part of a shell of bomb.
BD
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Chris 42 RQ
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Missing items !
Yes Steve you are spot on !
I recall having no camera :tinysmile_cry_t2: and always said we would go back there only to find they had all been removed for "renovation" work.
I do remember that all three had no driving bands.
Yes Steve you are spot on !
I recall having no camera :tinysmile_cry_t2: and always said we would go back there only to find they had all been removed for "renovation" work.
I do remember that all three had no driving bands.