Largest Tungsten rounds by nationality, used during combat in WW2
All,
Its crossed my mind that I've never seen an 8,8cm Pzgr.40 either in the flesh or in photos, yet we know they were designed and manufactured. Which got me thinking....What were the largest APCR, APCNR, APDS projectiles manufactured and used in combat during WW2 by each nationality and does anyone have any photos or examples to show.
Germany - 8,8cm Pzgr.40 - With material scarcity and the performance of the 88's there was barely any need for Hartkern rounds of this size, (Perhaps the front of an IS2/3 might warrant it) Has anyone seen one or own one, also, was there ever a 10,5cm designed or used or even 12,8cm designed or used?
Russia - 85mm BR-365P - Clearly the Allies did warrant higher performance rounds for use against some of the late war AFVs Germany were employing, but was a 100mm BR-412P (?) or even 122mm BR-471P ever used. Again do we have photos or examples.
UK - 17PR APDS - I am not aware of any 20PR or 3.7in used or designed during WW2 (clearly there was a 20PR APDS after the war)
USA - 90mm HVAP (T44/M304/M318) - I don't believe a 105mm was ever trialled during the war, and certainly not used in combat, but happy to be corrected.
France - 37mm Mle35/37 APCR - was there ever a 47mm or 75mm? Clearly their involvement in ww2 prevented designs beyond 1940
Other nationalities -Japan, Italy, Hungary, Czech, Polish, Sweden, Canada, Australian - Did they employ any Tungsten rounds at all?
I appreciate many of these are rare rounds, so may be a text only thread, but im hoping there should be some interesting responses
Rich
All,
Its crossed my mind that I've never seen an 8,8cm Pzgr.40 either in the flesh or in photos, yet we know they were designed and manufactured. Which got me thinking....What were the largest APCR, APCNR, APDS projectiles manufactured and used in combat during WW2 by each nationality and does anyone have any photos or examples to show.
Germany - 8,8cm Pzgr.40 - With material scarcity and the performance of the 88's there was barely any need for Hartkern rounds of this size, (Perhaps the front of an IS2/3 might warrant it) Has anyone seen one or own one, also, was there ever a 10,5cm designed or used or even 12,8cm designed or used?
Russia - 85mm BR-365P - Clearly the Allies did warrant higher performance rounds for use against some of the late war AFVs Germany were employing, but was a 100mm BR-412P (?) or even 122mm BR-471P ever used. Again do we have photos or examples.
UK - 17PR APDS - I am not aware of any 20PR or 3.7in used or designed during WW2 (clearly there was a 20PR APDS after the war)
USA - 90mm HVAP (T44/M304/M318) - I don't believe a 105mm was ever trialled during the war, and certainly not used in combat, but happy to be corrected.
France - 37mm Mle35/37 APCR - was there ever a 47mm or 75mm? Clearly their involvement in ww2 prevented designs beyond 1940
Other nationalities -Japan, Italy, Hungary, Czech, Polish, Sweden, Canada, Australian - Did they employ any Tungsten rounds at all?
I appreciate many of these are rare rounds, so may be a text only thread, but im hoping there should be some interesting responses
Rich
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