Latest find, practice italian srcm

[paul the grenade]

Heres my latest aquisition.
Its a practice Italian SRCM gren. I dont have much info on this one. All i know is it could be reloaded after each throw with a small spotting charge.
only markings i can find are SETA on the fly off lever.
Any pics or info would be appreciated.
Cheers, Paul.

 

[V40]

Scrm 35...

Paul,

From my books it is a model 35 "Practice" grenade.
Here are the specs:

WEIGHT/ 7oz
Length/ 3.1 inches
Filling/ would be 1.5oz of TNT
Fusing/ "All-ways" impact

Inside the body of the grenade their was a two concentrick containers with the inner most holding the explosive and the fuze. The outer one was surrounded by steel sleeve and wrapped with wire to produce a greater fragmentation.

It is another of the "Red Devil" grenades which were known for their malfunction ability.



V40
Mark

 

[sgtlynn]

Here is an interesting use of the practice/smoke version, note the bottle on the left. Used as igniters for "molotovs" in the desert.

 

[Francesco_Dif]

Not exactly; the grenades on the bottles are two BREDA 35

 

[Grenademan2005]

Hey:
Very interesting War pic sgtlynn, thank you for share it. Wartime pics of Italian grenades are very rare. Also Francesco_Dif is right, those two arent SCRM, are Bredas and one of them with holes in the outer body, very interesting.

 

[sgtlynn]

I know the one on the right is a Breda, but are you sure about the one on the left, sure looks like SRCM to me. However, I stand to be corrected.:wink:

 

[fert]

yours SRCM was post war production, SETA means Spolettificio Esercito Torre Annunziata, only found on post war production
nice item

regards

 

[Francesco_Dif]

Perfect sert! SETA is already active. It is a t 6 km from my home ;-)))

 

[Grenademan2005]

yours SRCM was post war production, SETA means Spolettificio Esercito Torre Annunziata, only found on post war production
nice item

regards

Very interesting point. Do you know why can be found the alluminium cover/safety lever with SCRM marked and without?

 

[Grenademan2005]

I know the one on the right is a Breda, but are you sure about the one on the left, sure looks like SRCM to me. However, I stand to be corrected.:wink:

Hi:
Both are Bredas, just look the pull tab and the top cover with holes. Maybe that Breda is one modified or just a smoke practice, like the SCRM yellow, it is not the solid white practice, this has holes for smoke, like the German ones.

 

[fert]

Very interesting point. Do you know why can be found the alluminium cover/safety lever with SCRM marked and without?

ciao
after ww2 the lone hand granade used was the SRCM, manufactured by SETA.
the factory SRCM was not in activity. so the construction of the hand granade SRCM was made by SETA. it's possible find safety cover unmarked and marked by SETA all post war. original ww2 SRCM had safety cover marked SOCIETA ROMANA

regards

 

[Grenademan2005]

Very interesting, it is very cool to find an Italian collector with knowledge about the Red Devils grenades, it is an unexplored field and I find it very interesting as I find the Italian WWII grenades very interesting and nice. As you know Red Devils were used in our Civil War and I found a retired Spanish Army EOD with a little collection of Civil War grenades. There I found some of the Red Devils, one of them an SCRM without maker mark on top. See pic, please, one on the left. As all the grenades were Civil War I take it fast. It has no markings.

 

[Grenademan2005]

And what can you tell me about this two Bredas? Just a variation on the maker mark? Or any of them is post war? Both were purchased in the same collection from Spanish EOD.

 

[fert]

Very interesting, it is very cool to find an Italian collector with knowledge about the Red Devils grenades, it is an unexplored field and I find it very interesting as I find the Italian WWII grenades very interesting and nice. As you know Red Devils were used in our Civil War and I found a retired Spanish Army EOD with a little collection of Civil War grenades. There I found some of the Red Devils, one of them an SCRM without maker mark on top. See pic, please, one on the left. As all the grenades were Civil War I take it fast. It has no markings.

thanks for your words miguel, very appreciated.
according with italian manual there is no existence of SRCM without makers mark. but as you know some nations produced ammunition for the civil war with atypical markings exclusively for the spain. personally I didn't find no trace in my sources about italian ammunition with atypical markings (6,5x52, 20x138, 45mm brixia mortar etc).
so if your SRCM was a production for civil war with no marking I think we could find also OTO and Breda without makers mark, but nowadays I never seen one.

about Breda I think it's a variation. they didn't manufacture post war.
best regards

 

[paul the grenade]

hi fert.
do you have any pictures or info on the practice charge that went inside the practice SRCM?
cheers, paul.

 

[dano1917]

Awesome grenade Paul. It has the "eye appeal" for sure and would be a welcome addition to any collection. Definately an awesome grenade with the looks to back it up. Great find and keep 'em coming...Dano

 

[fert]

hi fert.
do you have any pictures or info on the practice charge that went inside the practice SRCM?
cheers, paul.

I'm sorry only this.....:tinysmile_cry_t:

 

[paul the grenade]

Hi Fert.
Thats perfect thanks.:tinysmile_fatgrin_t
Cheers, Paul.

 

[Grenademan2005]

Fert, I have sent you an email, have you receive it?