What's new
British Ordnance Collectors Network

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Manufacturer identification LP

reccetrooper

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Does anyone know who LP were?

Possibly a South African company as all items observed have been found in South Africa.
Observed items include 1” and 1.5” signal flares, 1.5” CS cartridges, and L1A1 CS grenades, all of these items are dated mid-1960’s.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_8320.jpeg
    IMG_8320.jpeg
    997.4 KB · Views: 13
  • IMG_8326.jpeg
    IMG_8326.jpeg
    1.7 MB · Views: 13
  • IMG_8318.jpeg
    IMG_8318.jpeg
    892.6 KB · Views: 11
  • IMG_8319.jpeg
    IMG_8319.jpeg
    857.1 KB · Views: 12
  • IMG_8339.jpeg
    IMG_8339.jpeg
    21.3 KB · Views: 11
  • IMG_8322.jpeg
    IMG_8322.jpeg
    335.4 KB · Views: 13
  • IMG_8340.jpeg
    IMG_8340.jpeg
    15 KB · Views: 14
  • IMG_8341.jpeg
    IMG_8341.jpeg
    153.8 KB · Views: 16
Hi George, I think you are correct in saying that LP isn't English. The M1 designation is not on any of my tins or carts and I've never seen a yellow tin in 35 years. Also very low lot numbers. We produced large amounts of cartridges and lot numbers go into 100s.
Thanks for the interesting pics.
 
Hi George, I think you are correct in saying that LP isn't English. The M1 designation is not on any of my tins or carts and I've never seen a yellow tin in 35 years. Also very low lot numbers. We produced large amounts of cartridges and lot numbers go into 100s.
Thanks for the interesting pics.
Hi Tony,
I’ve just come across some saved photos that I sent to you in June 2017 when there was a wooden box up for sale in South Africa. I’ve just noticed that it is another LP marked item.

Certainly every LP marked item I’ve seen has been located in South Africa, and all are from the 1960’s.

20170629_125618_resized.jpeg20170629_125624_resized.jpeg
 
LP has now been identified as the South African company, Liebenberg & Price, they were apparently located in the Cape.
Liebenberg & Price were subsequently acquired by Swartklip Products.

Edit: JA Liebenberg, RG Price, and DG Price were three of the five directors of RONDEN MANUFACTURING CO. (PTY.) LTD. which was established in 1948. It appears therefore that LP was a monogram used by Ronden.
 
Last edited:
@reccetrooper - Thanks for clearing that up.

Ronden Manufacturing Co as stated, was established in 1948, initially as a fireworks company then added ammunition manufacture (.22 shotshells and kindred). Their headstamp monogram was "RMC" It would be interesting to know the reasons for using "LP" on pyrotechnic stores they manufactured.

TimG
 
@reccetrooper - Thanks for clearing that up.

Ronden Manufacturing Co as stated, was established in 1948, initially as a fireworks company then added ammunition manufacture (.22 shotshells and kindred). Their headstamp monogram was "RMC" It would be interesting to know the reasons for using "LP" on pyrotechnic stores they manufactured.

TimG
Since posting I have been sent photos of several mortar Ballistite cartridges, the headstamps include LP at 9 o’clock position, two other letters at 12, year digits at 3, and caliber at 6. The top cards also bear LP, with dates from 01/67 to 3/71.

I have also been sent a couple of photos from a Ronden 1968 20th Anniversary pamphlet in which it says “in 1953 the company made its first approach to the Department of Defence suggesting that they were now capable and equipped to manufacture the defence pyrotechnic products which were being purchased overseas.”
 
Top