Mortar bomb ID needed please

[AndyD]

I've had this for a while now and never got around to identifying it.

It measures approx 295 mm high,and the diameter at the widest part is approx 81mm (so presumably an 81mm type!)

Markings are,PAS 1932 52 45 PAM 56 on the body.
FA 32. FO.41.48 on the fins.
MNB-58-51 on the fuze pocket.

It looks like there should be some kind of adapter tyhat screws into the fuze pocket for the fuze to screw into,but this is missing.

All help appreciated!

Cheers,
Andy

 

[butterfly]

I'm thinking possibly French 81mm???...... but I'm no expert, so it would be better to get positive ID from someone who knows this area better!!
regards
Kev

 

[F0031]

I've seen those fins on a Japanese type 100 mortar.

http://www.inert-ord.net/jap02h/t100mort/index.html

T.

 

[pointblank0]

I am thinking French too. Those fins are identical to two French mortars I have.

 

[doctor]

It's french mortar bomb smoke training round with inert load weight inside and around the smoke gaine
On cylindric gaine there's another gainer for fitting RY 17 fuze (without detonator)

 

[AndyD]

Thanks Doctor,what time period is it from please?

Cheers,
Andy

 

[pointblank0]

It's french mortar bomb smoke training round with inert load weight inside and around the smoke gaine
On cylindric gaine there's another gainer for fitting RY 17 fuze (without detonator)

I though the French smoke rounds had plugged holes around the body? Was this not the case on all of their smoke mortars then?

 

[doctor]

Hi
time between ww1 & 2
Mortar round type 1932( so can also found in type wane 24/27)

 

[AndyD]

Thanks doctor.
So I need an adaptor to be able to attach a fuze to the mortar?

Any idea on the value of these mortars please?

Cheers,
Andy

 

[Yodamaster]

Mo 81 mm d'exercice (Fr)

I think I've found your mortar bomb.
See here under the pic's.

 

[AndyD]

Thanks Yodamaster,that looks like the one!

So it does need an adaptor for the fuze,what are the chances of me finding one?

Cheers,
Andy

 

[Yodamaster]

Mo 81 mm (Fr)

Sorry, I don't known
I'm not a collector, therefor I'm not the good man to answer on your question.

 

[Yodamaster]

Mo 81 mm d'exercice (Fr)

If this can help you ?

 

[AndyD]

Yes that helps thanks,it shows where the adaptor screws into the gaine.

Cheers,
Andy

 

[Yodamaster]

Mo 81 mm d'exercice (Fr)

On this first pic you can see the mounting of the gaine and the adaptor for the fuze. It is not the same projectile, but the mounting is similar (same gaine).
second pic, the fuze you need to have for your exercice projectile.

 

[AndyD]

Thanks again Yodamaster.

I know where I can get the fuze,just need the adaptor now!

Cheers,
Andy

 

[navyman]

I've had this for a while now and never got around to identifying it.

It measures approx 295 mm high,and the diameter at the widest part is approx 81mm (so presumably an 81mm type!)

Markings are,PAS 1932 52 45 PAM 56 on the body.
FA 32. FO.41.48 on the fins.
MNB-58-51 on the fuze pocket.

It looks like there should be some kind of adapter tyhat screws into the fuze pocket for the fuze to screw into,but this is missing.
All help appreciated!

Hello Andy,
I bought this 'Sawn off' 81mm mortar round last year and cleaned it up, de-rusted and lacquered the inside. The propellant cartridge is marked in French and 81mm. It's been chromed and copper plated, I use it as a flower vase!
Cheers,
Guy.