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question about marking
- Thread starter jhonni \
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Francesco_Dif
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I think the second one was Polish
V40
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The second picture is a M31 Polish fragmentation grenade. No other specifics from my sources. The first picture looks like a Warsaw Pact country's F-1 to which they all are from the same design. It has the proper Koveshnikov fuze to it also. Do me a favor, can you unscrew the fuse from the body, if so go a head and see if you can find anykind of number just above the detonator and the screw on portion of the fuze.
If it says a number, let me know what it is.
V-40
If it says a number, let me know what it is.
V-40
jhonni \
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- First grenade was find on WW2 battlefields in Russia (Novgorod region of Russia).
Koveshnikovs fuse not from this grenade body. Body was find without fuse. So marking on body "cross" not Russian.
- No guys, it's not Polish grenade M31. (polish not had M31 grenade never - only wz.O.23 and wz.O.33 defensive grenades and other F-1 type) Polish don't produced four bricks bodies of grenade (five or more only). Fuse with "AEM" marking is an original French Mle1935 fuse. The Polish fuse marking is - "wz.GR31" . Bodies manufactured in France for the most part was used in 1921 year (Polish-Russian war in 1921). I think is a French grenade but I don't know producers name.
Notice: If you wanna know more about Polish grenades read book by DarrylW.Lynn "Recognition manual. Warsaw pact Vol.3" and look Polish websites.
Thanks!
Jhonni. (Evgeny)
Koveshnikovs fuse not from this grenade body. Body was find without fuse. So marking on body "cross" not Russian.
- No guys, it's not Polish grenade M31. (polish not had M31 grenade never - only wz.O.23 and wz.O.33 defensive grenades and other F-1 type) Polish don't produced four bricks bodies of grenade (five or more only). Fuse with "AEM" marking is an original French Mle1935 fuse. The Polish fuse marking is - "wz.GR31" . Bodies manufactured in France for the most part was used in 1921 year (Polish-Russian war in 1921). I think is a French grenade but I don't know producers name.
Notice: If you wanna know more about Polish grenades read book by DarrylW.Lynn "Recognition manual. Warsaw pact Vol.3" and look Polish websites.
Thanks!
Jhonni. (Evgeny)
Francesco_Dif
Well-Known Member
Polish Colours
We know that is not a body and a fuze from Polish, but I was referring to the color scheme, you do not believe it is Polish?
We know that is not a body and a fuze from Polish, but I was referring to the color scheme, you do not believe it is Polish?
zonk007
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Hi Evgenij !
I gladd that I see You :tinysmile_grin_t:
Color scheme...
Red stripe on Polish grenade marks training version, but sign UV not Polish, V.43 in fuze also not Polish.
My opinion - this is Romanian grenade.
I gladd that I see You :tinysmile_grin_t:
Color scheme...
Red stripe on Polish grenade marks training version, but sign UV not Polish, V.43 in fuze also not Polish.
My opinion - this is Romanian grenade.
jhonni \
Well-Known Member
Up the old theme!
Look at this grenade marking and look at this plane from French regiment "Normandia Neman"....
Cheers!
Eugene
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jhonni \
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Zdenek you mean a cross is Romanian,
or this grenade?
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/showpost.php?p=119798&postcount=2
Eugene.
or this grenade?
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/showpost.php?p=119798&postcount=2
Eugene.
Zdenek
Member
No cross,red band!
jhonni \
Well-Known Member
and more question
Who is producer?
Marking on body "UV". French type body and French fuse "Mle1935"....
Hello guys!
A secret about F-1 with red stripe, marking "U.V." and with fuse like as a Polish, was cracked!
This is a Romanian grenade from state Victoria - "Ucea Victoria" Chemical factory....
read at this:
Victoria is a town in the western part of BraЕџov County. It had a population of 9,059 at the 2002 census.
In 1939, the Romanian state signed a contract with the German company Ferrostaal of Essen.
The building of the town began in 1949 and it had the provisional names of "Colonia Ucea" and "Ucea Roşie" (Red Ucea), only to be changed in November 1954 to Victoria.
Uzina de Victoria (Uzina de "Combinatul Chimic Victoria”), U.V.
P.S. This secret was cracked by my friend from Krasnodarski area in Russia!
Cheers!
Eugene.
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nitrocellulose
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The first grenade looks an awful lot like a USSR Grenade Hand Frag Mk F.
The second one can't be the Polsh grenade, this one has 4 blocks and the Polish one has 5. The fuze is very similar though. The second grenade is a French Grenade Hand Frag Mdle 1915 F1. This grenade definitely used the fuze Mdle 1935.
I can't verify the colour schemes.
My source is ORDATA II.
The second one can't be the Polsh grenade, this one has 4 blocks and the Polish one has 5. The fuze is very similar though. The second grenade is a French Grenade Hand Frag Mdle 1915 F1. This grenade definitely used the fuze Mdle 1935.
I can't verify the colour schemes.
My source is ORDATA II.
