Ive got this AP-shell yesterday. It looks like a Pzgr 18 but the body is silver painted with black tip. 6 or 7 years ago i got my first of this version and i asked some peoples in forums but nobodys has an answer. only one has written it could be an API but it goes never in service and he have no datasheets/manuals. any ideas?
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unknown 3,7cm AP-Shell
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yes im sure. it was a little bit rusty under and on the drivingbelt. the finder has cleaned it by using a drilling machine with a wire brush :tinysmile_cry_t4: ive only put a little bit oil on it. the older one wich is in my collection you see below. both are water/mire finds finds
4th from top/4th from right
4th from top/4th from right
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3,7cm Pzgr 18 v.
Hello Munfrosch,
I don't known if this can help you, but I've found in my Doc a drawing, without comments, of the 3,7cm Pzgr 18 v.
The interresting thing is that they say it is made in an alloy of steel and chrome without nickel. It's probably therefor that your projo is so "beautiful" in silver colour.
The rust on the driving band is normal. The band is made of FES (soft steel).
Thanks to Mr Belot Henry for his documentation.
Yoda
Hello Munfrosch,
I don't known if this can help you, but I've found in my Doc a drawing, without comments, of the 3,7cm Pzgr 18 v.
The interresting thing is that they say it is made in an alloy of steel and chrome without nickel. It's probably therefor that your projo is so "beautiful" in silver colour.
The rust on the driving band is normal. The band is made of FES (soft steel).
Thanks to Mr Belot Henry for his documentation.
Yoda
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Hey,
I don't know wether or not this ammo is in the pawlas publication (as I don't have these books, shame on me). It can however be found in the published Luftwaffe manuals.
As I owe two different 3,7 M-Pz granaten, I believe there to be different versions of this ammo, as both have different drivingbelts, are of different weight and one has a thicker wall than the other (also there seems to be a difference in piercing capacity as on one of the pieces the nose is noticably heavier, indicating more steel at that end).
regards,
Menno.
I don't know wether or not this ammo is in the pawlas publication (as I don't have these books, shame on me). It can however be found in the published Luftwaffe manuals.
As I owe two different 3,7 M-Pz granaten, I believe there to be different versions of this ammo, as both have different drivingbelts, are of different weight and one has a thicker wall than the other (also there seems to be a difference in piercing capacity as on one of the pieces the nose is noticably heavier, indicating more steel at that end).
regards,
Menno.
This is correct! but for what stand silver with black tip? :tinysmile_cry_t:
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i think no. but original docs are better then pawlas books and some mistakes inside...
I agree on an uneducated repaint.
if you have some probs so leave it out an pm ne...these 2 shells are both originials if you like it or not...dived out some years ago..i know the source...one has hardly cleaned with wire brush...you could see it :tinysmile_angry_t:
and remember:if you dont know something you mustnt cry fake or repainted to it!
they come up all with 1940 brass coated cases (charge 224, 225, 226)...maybe some for export but never delivered and used up or some experiemtal? this is the question for me...the first i get 7 or 8 years ago, the 2nd this year when he give up the collection...some more pics only for you...
and remember:if you dont know something you mustnt cry fake or repainted to it!
they come up all with 1940 brass coated cases (charge 224, 225, 226)...maybe some for export but never delivered and used up or some experiemtal? this is the question for me...the first i get 7 or 8 years ago, the 2nd this year when he give up the collection...some more pics only for you...
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I am saying this is a repaint, that is all. You got caught more than ones with fake and questionable items you been swearing solemnly as for their genuity. Not to say statements on standard issue items you declared experimental or what so ever great story you made up for.
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Ah I forgot your new images. Where is the relation between the "Panzergranate 18 V" (left) which is made of 2 steel parts, the upper one of high carbone steel and being dark for this reason and the body part made of regular steel which is lighter in color and your repaint?