who can ID the mfg of the M14?

[Dragontooth]

please see here for the pictures. Anybody know who PPQ is?

First large pic on the first page of the thread.
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/m14-apers-t75533.html

Cheers,
Dave

 

[HAZORD]

Here you go

 

[Dragontooth]

Here you go

Hazord, thank you very much for the response, I appreciate it, but the problem is, which you willl also see in the M14 thread that apparently the company Paladin Precision Products was founded in 1963, if I remember correctly and the mine we are looking at here is from the year 1955, i.e. Paladin did not exist.

Please correct me if I am wrong. You took that from one of those MIL STD 1461a handbooks, right?
If we could get one from the 50s, we could know for sure.

from their website:
History of Palladin Palladin, founded by Anthony Palladino in 1963, manufactures precision parts to exacting tolerances in a wide range of materials, and serves a diverse set of industries. The Palladin mission is to provide its customers with manufacturing excellence. This excellence is accomplished by maintaining a heightened level of customer service that most companies are unwilling or unable to provide.



This is quite complicated, I have to admit.
Dave

 

[HAZORD]

It would appear that you would need to contact the government office responsible for issuing the manufacturer codes to see who it was assigned to in the 50s. Maybe when Paladin was formed, it had purchased some other business that already had that manufacturer code issued to it.

 

[Dragontooth]

Sorry to ask, but do you have any idea which government institution to contact responsible for mfg. codes from the 50s or which could simply give me contractor information for various munitions used in the Korean and Indochina wars?

Best,
Dave

 

[HAZORD]

The book that lists the manufacturers is from:

The U.S. Army Armament Munitions and Chemical Command located at that time in Rock Island, Illinois

The book is dated 1990

 

[Dragontooth]

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LOP is the Louisiana Ordnance Plant, which later had the name changed to Louisiana Army Ammunition Plant. It is now closed. They were the LAP (load, assemble, pack) facility. As for the PPQ, that would be the manufacturer of the plastic parts of the mine body since that is embossed in the plastic itself. I doubt that it is Palladin Precision Products. The 3 letter codes in the US are used by a contractor and when the company goes out of business or stops providing material to the government, that code is cancelled and often appears at a later date for a new company. I am not sure if that is what happened here, but the PPQ code does not show up in my versions of MIL STD 1461 dated 1975 or MIL STD 1461D from April 1980 or the predecessor APSAP 746-1 dated 1973. So Palladin did not exist or serve as a contactor during the timeframes I have codes for. I looked in both the active code sections and the obsolete code section and could not find it. My problem is I do not have code listing for as early as the production date. The production date is close to being one of the first production runs because I don't think the mine saw service until about 1955, but I am going by memory there not proven fact.

You see, sir, this is what is confusing me...