100 arrowhead projectile

[SG500]

I'm currently restoring a Russian 100mm arrowhead projectile and was wondering what markings need to be stencilled on. Please would someone post information showing the markings and also a cross section drawing of the projectile.
Thanks,
Dave.

 

[Slick]

Dave

I checked my TM 30-240 (FEB 1953). These are the only 100mm projectiles listed. Hopefully, one of them is it.

 

[SG500]

Dave

I checked my TM 30-240 (FEB 1953). These are the only 100mm projectiles listed. Hopefully, one of them is it.

Thanks Slick.
This is the one.
All INERT etc.
Any ideas of stencilling to go on it?
Dave.

 

[HAZORD]

Pointy things

Dave,

I'm thinking this is your bullet. Lettering per the photo. The letters are 7mm high with 3-1/2mm between rows. A few other items thrown in because they were in the neighborhood.

 

[SG500]

Dave,

I'm thinking this is your bullet. Lettering per the photo. The letters are 7mm high with 3-1/2mm between rows. A few other items thrown in because they were in the neighborhood.

Oh man, what a lovely bunch of projectiles, here I am eating my lunch and I've just messed up my keyboard by dribbling all over it! You've managed to show numbers 1 and 2 on my "wants list" in one photo (the 7.5cm and 5cm squeeze bores)!! VERY NICE INDEED!

Back to the Russian arrowhead, thanks for the information, much appreciated.

Dave.

 

[US-Subs]

When you mentioned "arrowhead" I was expecting the other (third) type of AP round. Normally I've seen this simply referred to as the early style of APDS. Arrowhead used to be used for the one style specifically. I'd attach a photo, but my work computer limits me.

 

[SG500]

When you mentioned "arrowhead" I was expecting the other (third) type of AP round. Normally I've seen this simply referred to as the early style of APDS. Arrowhead used to be used for the one style specifically. I'd attach a photo, but my work computer limits me.

Hum yes you have me thinking now.
I said arrowhead because I assumed perhaps incorrectly that the whole projectile would go all the way to the target BUT what would be the point in putting in the recessed part to the front of the forward part of the "sabot" type thing? I put "sabot" in inverted commas because I'm not sure if that's what it is. It does not have the usual 2,3 or 4 way split that you usually get with APDS or the bit on the front that you normally get with APPS (Armour Piercing Pot Sabot).
Is it possible that wind resistance on the whole of this "sabot" slows it sufficiently for the rest of the sheeth/core to carry on after it exits the gun?
Apologies for all the confusion! It hadn't crossed my mind that it may be APPS without the split to the "sabot".
Dave.

 

[US-Subs]

I'm pretty sure that this one sheds the sabot, but it's an early design and it was probably pretty inefficient in comparison to later models. I'll look for some more typical arrowhead pictures when I get home tonight.

 

[SG500]

I'm pretty sure that this one sheds the sabot, but it's an early design and it was probably pretty inefficient in comparison to later models. I'll look for some more typical arrowhead pictures when I get home tonight.

Thanks, yes I have the 45mm, 57mm, 75mm and 85 mm Russian ones that really are arrowheads, guess I got the terminology wrong on this one, would like to see your pictures though, very interested.
Dave.

 

[waffenamt]

Oh man, what a lovely bunch of projectiles, here I am eating my lunch and I've just messed up my keyboard by dribbling all over it! You've managed to show numbers 1 and 2 on my "wants list" in one photo (the 7.5cm and 5cm squeeze bores)!! VERY NICE INDEED!

Back to the Russian arrowhead, thanks for the information, much appreciated.

Dave.

:bigsmile: Nicely put Dave!! A lot of terminology as used by myself when i see certain items posted on the forums!

cheers

waff

 

[butterfly]

Quote:
Originally Posted by HAZORD
Dave,

I'm thinking this is your bullet. Lettering per the photo. The letters are 7mm high with 3-1/2mm between rows. A few other items thrown in because they were in the neighborhood.

Oh man, what a lovely bunch of projectiles, here I am eating my lunch and I've just messed up my keyboard by dribbling all over it! You've managed to show numbers 1 and 2 on my "wants list" in one photo (the 7.5cm and 5cm squeeze bores)!! VERY NICE INDEED!

Back to the Russian arrowhead, thanks for the information, much appreciated.

Dave.

Dont you just love it when that happens !!!! HAZORD I think you just made Dave's DAY, WEEK and MONTH all in one photo !!!!

regards Kev

 

[HAZORD]

Dave,

You eveidently need one of those "Industrial" keyboards for use in factories where people drool on the keyboards. Glad you like the photos. They were pointy and in the neighborhood of where I was taking the photo.

If you review the construction of your bullet, the screws on the side are used to retain the penetrator in the sabot during firing. The wind resistance on the sabot shears the little pins, so the sabot falls off and the penetrator continues on to target.

John

 

[SG500]

Dave,

You eveidently need one of those "Industrial" keyboards for use in factories where people drool on the keyboards. Glad you like the photos. They were pointy and in the neighborhood of where I was taking the photo.

If you review the construction of your bullet, the screws on the side are used to retain the penetrator in the sabot during firing. The wind resistance on the sabot shears the little pins, so the sabot falls off and the penetrator continues on to target.

John

Thanks John, I'll investigate further.

Dave.

 

[US-Subs]

Here are some arrowheads from MTM.

 

[US-Subs]

Here are some more from the Russian Artillery Museum. The mass group shots are from the storage area - an incredible collection which is stunning in quantity, quality and the scope that it covers.

 

[HAZORD]

In the first few photos of the Russian Artillery Museum, they have some interesting ways of keeping the rounds standing up. Never seen that before.

 

[SG500]

Nice photos US-Subs, thanks for posting them.

Dave.

 

[US-Subs]

In the first few photos of the Russian Artillery Museum, they have some interesting ways of keeping the rounds standing up. Never seen that before.

Also prevents theft. You get all or nothing

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

Very nice !

SG500 is not the only one drooling over all the pictures here