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1916 2 Pr Is it for the 2 Pr Pom Pom or something else ?

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Gspragge

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The case is 1915, the projectile 1916. Not necessarily a match and the upper band is
a different feature. Could this projectile be intended for something else ?

40mm is not my strongest area, but I'm curious ~

Image shows what I believe is the same projectile and cases some years apart.
 

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The case looks 2pr AA pom pom. The shell does not, at least not one of the common types associated with the pom pom. So my guess would be its from some other 2pr, have you researched Davis recoiless 2prs?
 
2pounder said:
The case looks 2pr AA pom pom. The shell does not, at least not one of the common types associated with the pom pom. So my guess would be its from some other 2pr, have you researched Davis recoiless 2prs?
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I'm no expert on these old rounds but I've never seen a 2 pounder Davis gun round with that style driving band.
Dave.
 
There has been mention of a long cased 40mm deck gun or something along those lines that was not quite adopted ?
For Submarines ??
 
I see the 1916 date on the projectile but I cannot make out a 1915 date on the case. What am I missing here??
 
After taking a closer look at the set of photos posted here, I see that while both cases have the same head stamp, these appear to be two different cases. There are marks on one case that do not show on the other. One case also has a pretty clear dent along the edge of the base. It looks to me to be two different rounds. Interesting that both projectiles are nickel plated.
 
Gspragge said:
There has been mention of a long cased 40mm deck gun or something along those lines that was not quite adopted ?
For Submarines ??
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The long-case gun I know of is the Vickers 2 Pr Mk V, which has a 240mm case. I've only seen it referred to as an aircraft gun. I did wonder about it, given that the projectile seems to have a "V" mark (or am I misreading it?) but it looks very short. I have only seen one Mk V round and that had a long HE shell fitted with a sensitive No.131 nose fuze, the sort designed to work on hitting airship fabric.

There's a photo shown below from my web article on British 37 and 40mm guns: http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/37-40mm.htm

37-40mmWW1.jpg
 
The profile is blunter than the 40 x 158 example shown in Tony's image.
Indeed the date is missing from both cases, possibly polished off as some markings seem light.
 
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The M D Co case I have has the date lightly satamped to the right of the makers stamp in the form 30.9.16
 
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