2 shells for id

[munfrosch]

The first is a illum or propaganda shell i think. But wich?

Dia: 130mm
Length: 442mm

 

[munfrosch]

And a pre WW1 shell i think. On top is a dummy.

Dia: 85mm
Length with dummy: 245mm
Length only shell: 195mm

 

[Yodamaster]

And a pre WW1 shell i think. On top is a dummy.

Dia: 85mm
Length with dummy: 245mm
Length only shell: 195mm

Hello munfrosch,
I think you have there a 9 cm Gr 14a.
The fuze is another problem because it seems to be a K.Z. 16 m.V but the booster is not corresponding. Other problem, the 9cm Gr 14a is previous with H.Z. 14 Vorst (on belgian theatre).
So, it's all I can say.

Yoda

 

[munfrosch]

It helps, thanks!

Only the big one left...

 

[munfrosch]

No idea to the big one?

 

[Yodamaster]

We are looking for, but have some problems for id !
From where is it coming ?
The rotating belt like belgian or french.
can you see some markings on the shell or on the fuze ?

Yoda

 

[munfrosch]

No markings left. Found in germany. Maybe captured ammo??

 

[Alpini]

the 130 mm is a russian illumination round for the 130 mm M-46 gun, so it's after WW2...