20x139 unknown projectile possibly AP-T?? and a TP-T and TP

[8.8zunder44]

Hello all , I have recently acquired these from a good friend who picked them up on his travels to Germany , I know one is TP-T ( ink marked T 20K UB DM48 A1 LOS DN - 8 - 14 - X ) and marked on the fuze ( EX AZ DM150 LOS DN - 4 - 59 ) and on the body ( 20K DM48A1 LOS DN - 7 - 59 DM1027 )
its the black AP-T looking projectile that has got me and a few friends stumped , it's defiantly a genuine projectile , it's marked on the body as follows DM 1023 LOS HS 24 - 20K DM13 LOSHS - 45
i hope with the markings and photos someone will know what I have here
i currevtly have no idea as to what the unpainted projectile is , it carries no markings , the dummy fuze unscrews and I'd hollow like you'd expect on a HE it is hollow on the base so possibly a tracer too

 

[HOUTZAGER]

Hello 8.8zunder44

The black projectile is the first German type Armor Piercing from 1955-1965.

The unpainted is a ballistic test round, i have the same version, the shell is filled with sand. And the body from the projectile is filled with a inert load.Best regards Ramon

 

[8.8zunder44]

Oh awesome , thank you for that HOUTZAGER , very helpful , I do have the case too , it was also filled with sand but I emptied it out not knowing it was meant to be there , I put it into a re sealable bag luckily , do you know what they are worth roughly ? I was given them
by a good friend
-Tim

 

[HOUTZAGER]

Hello Tim.

The A.P-T IS ABOUT 80,- / 150,- euro, it depence on how the quality is
Its a rare one. The unpainted is ABOUT 30,- / 60,- euro.

Regards Ramon