4.7" projectiles

[weberoed]

I am looking for some good references for 4.7" projectiles (US). The gun was used up until WW II, it was also used (I believe) as a UK 120mm Naval gun.

They are being found on some old test range here in the US and ID is hard, as the proj are rusted up pretty good. But most all found have been filled with sand or sulfur, after shape charging them. So far I can only find maybe 4 or 5 pages on these projectiles.

thanks

Mike

 

[bdgreen]

Do you have the ammunition pages from Handbook of the 4.7 Inch-Gun-Materiel-Model-of-1906-With-Instructions-for-Its-Care, USA 1917?

 

[bacarnal]

Mike, Are you looking for the 4.7" Field Gun or the 4.7" Anti Aircraft? For the 4.7" Field Gun, Google books has it for free, "Handbook of the 4.7-Inch Gun Material Model of 1906 and Instructions for its Care". Shows all about the gun and has a few pages about the ammo and fuzing. The shrapnel shell used a M1907M 31 second fuze (the same size as the M1914/1915 and also the same fuze used on the 6" Howitzer). The common steel shell (Model of 1905) used the medium caliber base detonating fuze and was filled with 3.36 lbs of "Tri-Nitro-Toluol". I also get from what I read that the common shell and possibly the shrapnel could be used in the 4.7" howitzer. Pub is 7.8MB to download, and like I said, it's free. Hope this helps. Cheers, Bruce.

 

[weberoed]

The rounds being found, most are inert filled, but they have also found some HE. Based on the items found they can not tell if from AA gun or towed. But they do not have any BD fuze, nor are they shrapnel rounds. Some have all the ID features of a HE, but there is so much rust on a couple that they can not ell if they are ejection. Fuzes are all gone.

Where is that pub on the 4.7 howitzer located?

thanks

Mike

 

[bdgreen]

Handbook of the 4.7 Inch-Gun-Materiel-Model-of-1906-With-Instructions-for-Its-Care, USA 1917. NOTE THE LAST PARAGRAPH, page 10.

 

[weberoed]

thanks for the info, it'll go into the library. But that is not the projectiles being found. In fact no shrapnel rounds or AP rounds have been found at all.

thanks again

 

[bdgreen]

4.5- inch drawings, 1947 & 120mm

 

[weberoed]

I have to compare those measurements to the ones being found, but you can imagine trying to determine a .2" difference on a rusted projo. I know so far the lengths have been matching up to the 4.7 - but will re look at everything Thanks again