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can you guess what caliber squeeze bore.
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Yep, 14/9 "viereck" Patrone. Casing was based on the 13 x 64 for the MG 131.
Iirc tests were carried out with this round under auspices of it being intended for a hunting rifle for "Herr Reichsmarshall Gring" but I'll have to look that up in Stegmllers book :tinysmile_twink_t2:
regards,
Menno.
Iirc tests were carried out with this round under auspices of it being intended for a hunting rifle for "Herr Reichsmarshall Gring" but I'll have to look that up in Stegmllers book :tinysmile_twink_t2:
regards,
Menno.
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Hey all. Full calibre reads: 14/9 x 84, the casing was actually based on the MG 131/8 casing ( istsself an experimental casing for an MG 131 round in 7,92 calibre), it was designated L1111. In order to keep the work on this round secret from the Polte firm, DWM decided on using a ruse; the weapon being developed was to be a hunting rifle for Goering. Reason for this ruse: Fliegeroberstingenieur (airforce chief engineer) Herr Viereck had been introduced to knowledge about squeezebore technique by the Polte firm and was sworn to secrecy, so he couldn't openly give the contract for developing the 14/9 calibre to DWM.
Regards,
Menno.
Regards,
Menno.
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Hello, I must correct myself:
the casing "L1111" was (according to Stegmueller) probably used in 14/10 experiments in conjunction with a conical barrel proposed by Polte as an improvement for (or over) the PzB 39.
A casing of the same dimensions (as far as can be judged from the drawings), as part of a round described as "Patrone 131/8-14/9", was used in tests with an altered MG 131 barrel. It is the latter which is shown by BLU 97 and which was part of the "Goering" ruse.
Involvement of Herr Viereck in both experiments and misreading the German text had me confused. I apologize!
But, to make things even more interesting: there also existed an unbelted 14/9 round, this was part of an experiment with the Patrone 318 (PzB 38 and 39) as ammo for a machinegun to be used in tanks, the MG 141 EW (I do not know what EW stands for).
In this project a conical barrel was also tested, this was the unbelted 14/9 (I presume the casing was based on that of the Patronenhuelse 318, Stegmueller does not specifically state this, but overall shape of the case, neck excepted, resembles the 7,92 x 94).
Regards,
Menno
the casing "L1111" was (according to Stegmueller) probably used in 14/10 experiments in conjunction with a conical barrel proposed by Polte as an improvement for (or over) the PzB 39.
A casing of the same dimensions (as far as can be judged from the drawings), as part of a round described as "Patrone 131/8-14/9", was used in tests with an altered MG 131 barrel. It is the latter which is shown by BLU 97 and which was part of the "Goering" ruse.
Involvement of Herr Viereck in both experiments and misreading the German text had me confused. I apologize!
But, to make things even more interesting: there also existed an unbelted 14/9 round, this was part of an experiment with the Patrone 318 (PzB 38 and 39) as ammo for a machinegun to be used in tanks, the MG 141 EW (I do not know what EW stands for).
In this project a conical barrel was also tested, this was the unbelted 14/9 (I presume the casing was based on that of the Patronenhuelse 318, Stegmueller does not specifically state this, but overall shape of the case, neck excepted, resembles the 7,92 x 94).
Regards,
Menno
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