cartridge unknow

[pat]

hello

identification please for this cartridge :
calibre : 7,65
markings : VE 1943

the bullets is very strange (for me )

 

[Yodamaster]

Hi pat,

If VE is the manufacturor code, I have "Cartoucherie de Valence, France"


Yoda

 

[trrrr]

Yes, france,year popular, and bullet strange for me too.

 

[TonyE]

Is the bullet lead or Jacketed?

If lead it looks like the Lyman 356402 bullet. I used to load hundreds of them. If it is jacketed I hav eno idea!

Regards
TonyE

 

[pat]

I do not know if it is lined, it must be that I dessertisse the case ?
the nose seems to be all steel

 

[US-Subs]

The profile of the bullet is also very similar to some of the armor piercing designs from the 1950s-60s - most similar to some of the US "metal piercing" designs. I know that several of the French companies did work on armor piercing 9mm, while the French were normally of a different design could this be one of them?

 

[hicky1300]

I`m with US - 9mm AP or SAP? Possibly for penetrating body armour as opposed to vehicle skins?
Not sure about the bullet & case match with regards to year/age.

 

[HK1971]

Hi Pat,
looks like a 7.65 mm Browning dummy round to me.

regards Hans

 

[TonyE]

Not with that French military headstamp it is not.

It is a 9x19, but the debate is what type of projectile is fitted, original or reload?

Regards
TonyE

 

[E-tech]

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/THV.htm

Looks like the conical bullets from France were brass- maybe it could be a different brand than THV- like the "Acane", maybe?