French 37mm canister M1908

[MINENAZ16]

Hello,
Herewith a common 37mm canister model 1908 but it's the first time I see the groove on the body.
I never paid attention to this detail.
I know later models with several grooves made for improve opening (cylindrical LCM type and models 1918).
Maybe other members could show their 1908 model in collection for comparaison.
TIA

 

[Vasco Da Gama]

I had a look at the canister round in my collection and no groove! I thought to post a few pictures of this 1911 dated example, with base plate removed. The interesting part of this example is the headstamp which for me clearly explains the round is for revolver guns and rapid fire (Tir Rapide). I am making the assumption TR refers to the belt fed Maxim type weapons, if this is the case then belt fed canister would be devastating thing to face.

 

[Gspragge]

An interesting observation. Mine does not have the grooves. It is an improvement so maybe a wartime example ?
I would be glad to have one of these varients, if any one has a spare let me know :tinysmile_kiss_t4:

I show a group of these, the training model is also one I do not have. My 1918 type has only the three
horizontal cuts, so no grooves needed. The unfinished body has deep grooves and I have not observed this
in any other form yet ?

 

[jvollenberg]

What does the M stand for on the nose? I am assuming this is what makes it French?

Joe

 

[MINENAZ16]

What does the M stand for on the nose? I am assuming this is what makes it French?

Joe

The marking "M" is very common on the canister 1908 but no answer.
Others discussions on french forums and not a single answer
https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=58449

 

[Hoeksel]

In my reference list M is for Compagnie Electricité & Moucel de Paris, Usine de Tillières sur Avre (in the specific case of the M on this round). I did not check the other reference.

 

[Gspragge]

It may (conjecture) stand for Model "Mle" indicating a new model because with out this it would in the case be identicle
to the previous kind, the difference being about 4mm in length below the case neck.
With out this it would be impossible to tell one from the other.
The scibed lines in the body wouldn't be enough and those versions seem rare enough ~

 

[Alpini]

or "M" like "Mitraille"

 

[Hoeksel]

or "M" like "Mitraille"

Actually, this sounds most logical to me.