Italian 75/18 Shrapnel.

[pajarito]

Hi there. Can anyone help me identify this italian 75/18/27 projectile?

I see the red stripe and the A.D.E. fuze, so I assume it's a shrapnel one. It will be destroyed, so this is just for identification.

Thanks in advance.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Hi,
Your picture seems distorted.
Yes looks like an Italian 75 shrapnel (I assume fired in spain during civil war).
In France sometimes we find the same but with markings 75/13/27 (for guns 75/13 and 75/27). I assume 75/18 gun is not very common.
Maybe Fert could help.

I think it's the same (I can read 18/27 on the picture) here :

Italian Projectiles

#1 ... Chemical Diameter: 65-MM Length: 231-MM Length W/O Adapter: 202-MM Joe

www.bocn.co.uk

 

[pajarito]

Thank you.

This is the only photo I have, sorry. It's indeed from the Spanish Civil War and it's very rare as there were only two 75/18 mod. 35 experimental howitzers.

In any case, it's the first Italian shrapnel we see in the area with the shape of mod. 32. HE.

 

[LEAFLET]

Thanks for posting Pajarito,
I am surprised that the paint is in such a good condition after such a long time laying outside in all weather conditions.
LEAFLET

 

[pajarito]

I think someone put it there. I doubt it will still have the paint after 90 years. Although it is true that the cold and dry climate of that zone preserves metals very well.

 

[AKON_]

Basic data: )

 

[AKON_]

Basic data Mod.34

 

[AKON_]

Source of basic data :

Akon

 

[peteblight]

I think someone put it there. I doubt it will still have the paint after 90 years. Although it is true that the cold and dry climate of that zone preserves metals very well.

I disagree. Italian rounds often have paint intact after 70 or 80 years. We’ve seen many examples with paint and markings at recovery sites.

 

[Eggburt1969]

Source of basic data :
View attachment 197663
Akon

There's a online viewable version of the document Akon posted pages from, which is linked below.

The file is non-downloadable, but there are tools that can download, or convert the viewable images to a non-OCR'ed PDF. Though I am not advocating that you do this...

I can also convert the non-OCR'ed PDF to an OCR'ed searchable version, but it takes a lot of time to convert correctly.

DATI TECNICI SULLE ARTIGLIERIE IN SERVIZIO

Manuale sulle artiglierie, Biblioteca privata di Alessandro Serafini,1938

issuu.com

 

[fert]

Hello,
I think it’s a standards shrapnel refurbished in 1933 By DAB, Direzione Arriglieria Bologna.
In 1933 75/18 wasn’t, still adopted.
Marking definitely 75/13/27
These shrapnel was ww1 refurbished in 20’s and 30’s

About shape I think just a photo angle.

Some pics


In this pic Ripr. means restored, with new explosive




All the best

 

[pajarito]

Thank you all for your help.

 

[pajarito]

I see my photo in a database

 

[pajarito]

Definitely, the one on the right says 75/18/27. Found in Spain, Spanish Civil War. Aragon Front.

 

[pajarito]

Definitely, the one on the right says 75/18/27. Found in Spain, Spanish Civil War. Aragon Front.

 

[fert]

Hello,
I still think it's 75/13/27.
if you look the character of marking is different for the right one. Please look the year 1933, the 3 in 75/13 it's slightly more closed.
best regards

 

[wingsofwrath]

Definitely, the one on the right says 75/18/27. Found in Spain, Spanish Civil War. Aragon Front.

I agree with @fert
Looking very carefully at the picture, I also think that's a "13" and the grime on it makes it look like an "18" - the thing that swung it for me is how the middle bar is straight, like on the two "3"s in "33" lower down.