Vollketten
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So I'm a little perplexed by some information on the French 47mm anti-tank gun and compatible shells and I was looking for some expert help.
The gun is the French 47mm L/50 Mle 1937 SA37 gun in German service known as 4.7cm Pak 181/182 (f)

http://i.imgur.com/PcPWNXH.jpg
1.9m of rifling in a gun 2.393m long (1.9m of rifling is 40.4 calibres and 2.393m is 50.9 calibres)
Rate of fire quoted as 15-20 rpm
So far I have some prospective information from various sources:
Shells:
- AP shell (may be capped and may be the OBR Mle36 below I don't know - 47 x 380R at 855m/s
- APCR (A German shell about which I have no information)
- Obus de Rupture Mle 36 (APBC) aka PzGr. 178(f) - 47 x 380R, 1.726kg shell at 855m/s
- Obus Explosif Mle 32 M39 (HE) aka PzGr 181 (f) - 1.41kg shell at 590 m/s
- SpGr. Patrone 181 (f)

http://i.imgur.com/q4v0Vid.jpg
Penetration information:
Source 1: Shell not stated but some type of AP
106mm @ 0 deg. @ 100m
89 mm @ 0 def. @ 500m
72 mm @ 0 deg. @ 750m
57 mm @ 0 deg. @1000m
Source 2: Shell not stated but some type of AP
92.5mm @ 0 deg. @ 100m
77 mm @ 0 deg. @ 500m
Source 3: Shell not stated but some type of AP
40 mm @ 0 deg. @ 1000m
I can't find a cross section of the gun and I was also wondering if the gun could take the Italian 47mm shells which are 47x227 R
If someone could summarise some shells and performance and if in theory the 47x227R Italian rounds would fit if would be appreciated thank you.
The gun is the French 47mm L/50 Mle 1937 SA37 gun in German service known as 4.7cm Pak 181/182 (f)

http://i.imgur.com/PcPWNXH.jpg
1.9m of rifling in a gun 2.393m long (1.9m of rifling is 40.4 calibres and 2.393m is 50.9 calibres)
Rate of fire quoted as 15-20 rpm
So far I have some prospective information from various sources:
Shells:
- AP shell (may be capped and may be the OBR Mle36 below I don't know - 47 x 380R at 855m/s
- APCR (A German shell about which I have no information)
- Obus de Rupture Mle 36 (APBC) aka PzGr. 178(f) - 47 x 380R, 1.726kg shell at 855m/s
- Obus Explosif Mle 32 M39 (HE) aka PzGr 181 (f) - 1.41kg shell at 590 m/s
- SpGr. Patrone 181 (f)

http://i.imgur.com/q4v0Vid.jpg
Penetration information:
Source 1: Shell not stated but some type of AP
106mm @ 0 deg. @ 100m
89 mm @ 0 def. @ 500m
72 mm @ 0 deg. @ 750m
57 mm @ 0 deg. @1000m
Source 2: Shell not stated but some type of AP
92.5mm @ 0 deg. @ 100m
77 mm @ 0 deg. @ 500m
Source 3: Shell not stated but some type of AP
40 mm @ 0 deg. @ 1000m
I can't find a cross section of the gun and I was also wondering if the gun could take the Italian 47mm shells which are 47x227 R
If someone could summarise some shells and performance and if in theory the 47x227R Italian rounds would fit if would be appreciated thank you.