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JUST ARRIVED IN THE POST TODAY COULDNT BELIEVE MY LUCK WHEN I WON THIS BRITISH No28 MK2 ON A SITE GOT IT FOR A REAL GOOD PRICE ASWELL . ALL I NEED NOW IS THE FUZE TO COMPLETE IT .

ENJOY SHAUN
 

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Awesome Shaun, Huge find. the markings are so so clear. i had only previously seen on line drawings etc...Great addition to your already fine collection......Dano
 
thanks DANO and ANDY its the first 1 i have ever seen for sale ive only ever seen drawings also

thanks guys
 
cheers paul . its a lot larger than the No15 i thought it would of been around the same size . you just reminded me paul the top your after the nearest is 28mm but i will keep a look out

thanks shaun
 
Shaun - That is a TERRIFIC GRENADE - The best one I have seen outside a Museum. WF
 
Yes Gordon, Definately a grenade for catapults. WW1 had more than its share of gimmicks (in in horesback and out in tanks). Shaun just how big is that bohemeth grenade. You said it was bigger than a 15 cricket ball, how much bigger. These gimmick pieces were usually very short lived hence the rarity. I think this is a very important find. It was released in 1917 which surprises me somewhat that a catapult bomb would have been released on such a late date. I just love it when a piece in Delhommes book surfaces that i'd not seen before. Are these seen in Europe with regularity? Maybe living here in the sticks (US) I just dont get to see the rarer stuff. there were a number of catapult bombs. By the wars end in 1918 the grenades and mortars had pretty much been tuned in to what we see in more modern conflicts but there were some one-off patents, to be sure.....Dano
 
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Very nice piece of hardware. I attach a couple of photos of the public display exhibit in the IWM, London.



Tom.
 

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I hope the attached are of use. The Mk II was commonly used for dug-out clearance and, although primarily filled lachrymatory, a lethal 'White Star' filling was experimented with. Post-WW1 the No 28 was further developed (Mks III & IV) experimentally but the payload was insufficient to produce an effective Mustard contamination bomb and subsequent design work produced the 6lb Ground Bomb.

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hello Gspragge

havent had a chance to read up on it yet mate . dano will be correct mr know it all only kidding dano LOL :)
 
thanks snufkin for the pics ill have to watch out for the MK1 now
shaun
 
thanks BONNEX great pics do you mind if i print them of mate . ive noticed the fuze is similar to the fuze used on the No27 ive tried one on the body looks well but fits loosly . ive got a feeling the fuze may be rarer than the grenade itself
shaun
 
Pretty similar but the fuze cover is longer on the 28 and has an extra 'step' . The brass fuze adapter (which screws onto the thread stud) is stronger on the 28.

Happy that you use the images and yes, more bodies survived than fuzes.
 
dano1917 said:
Yes Gordon, Definately a grenade for catapults. WW1 had more than its share of gimmicks (in in horesback and out in tanks). Shaun just how big is that bohemeth grenade. You said it was bigger than a 15 cricket ball, how much bigger. These gimmick pieces were usually very short lived hence the rarity. I think this is a very important find. It was released in 1917 which surprises me somewhat that a catapult bomb would have been released on such a late date. I just love it when a piece in Delhommes book surfaces that i'd not seen before. Are these seen in Europe with regularity? Maybe living here in the sticks (US) I just dont get to see the rarer stuff. there were a number of catapult bombs. By the wars end in 1918 the grenades and mortars had pretty much been tuned in to what we see in more modern conflicts but there were some one-off patents, to be sure.....Dano
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Dano,

The 'Q' Type Grenade (original name for the No28 Mk I) was certainly a Spring Gun grenade and the MkII could be used this way too but as you say the Spring Gun/Catapult was rather out of favour by the time supplies of the 28 Mk 2 got to France so it was used mainly by hand. I dont suppose many made it to France but Snufkin could probably tell us how many.

Re your Signature "The Somme etc", my father was 'on the first day of the Somme' and he would have agreed with your sentiment except maybe he would have said the whole war was a f__k up. It is his 116th birthday today, or at least it would have been if he hadn't died at 92! He was on the first troop transport to be torpedoed (Royal Edward), served at Gallipoli, Somme, Ypres and, in his words, 'was wounded in the Arras' - a whole series of f__k ups.
 
Well Now ~

I Think A Sound Happy Birthday is in order ; here or not ~

Any one who went through that deserves a round; Cheers Mate ---
 
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...I dont suppose many made it to France but Snufkin could probably tell us how many.
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From November 1917 the weekly requirement was 6,000 per week, rising to 7,000 per week by the end of the year and remaining thus throughout 1918. The weekly amount was a varying mix of lethal and lachrymatory, and a typical despatch might be 3,000 to France, 3,000 to Salonika and 1,000 to reserve.

To put the figures into context, Mills (Nos 23 II, 23 III and 36) requirements were 650,000 per week and rifle grenade (Nos 20, 22, 24 and 35) 200,000 in mid 1918.

In addition to the standing weekly requirements there was an initial spot demand for the US forces of 10,000, which became 50,000, and then 100,000. By cessation of hostilities this demand had been met in full.



Tom.
 
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Bonnex said:
Dano,



Re your Signature "The Somme etc", my father was 'on the first day of the Somme' and he would have agreed with your sentiment except maybe he would have said the whole war was a f__k up. It is his 116th birthday today, or at least it would have been if he hadn't died at 92! He was on the first troop transport to be torpedoed (Royal Edward), served at Gallipoli, Somme, Ypres and, in his words, 'was wounded in the Arras' - a whole series of f__k ups.
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Actually not my sentiment, I will have to blame that one on Ian Hogg........Dano
 
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