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Russian rifle grenade (ww1)
- Thread starter MINENAZ16
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Yes, it is, but no pictures of this grenade with fuze in the head. More popular was this version of grenade.
Hi,
Ok I am some what very late on this thread.
I came across this as I have been looking for information on the Zelensky grenade and other rifle grenades of Soviet origin of the WWI and WWII period. This part of a paper/document I am writing on antitank rifles and rifle grenades of the Finnish-soviet wars.
1. MINENAZ16 presented in his first post pictures of a Colonel Zelensky’s rifle grenade. This would appear to represent a later version of the grenade.
The original poster, another forum, indicated this had a body of cast aluminium. That poster also indicated it was a “WW1 era M1915 Russian Zielensky rifle grenade”. I am not sure if Russia had designated it as an M1915 grenade. Colonel Zelensky first presented his grenade in 1914.
2. Ivashkin makes a useful point in that the original Zelensky grenade had a fuse in its base. This is presented in the web documents:
English version
Domestic rifle grenades, April 9 2014
or
Russian version
Отечественные винтовочные гранаты, 9 апреля 2014
topwar.ru
The text on these web pages indicate Ivashkin’s version, but the sketch in the text indicates something similar to that posted by MINENAZ16
Hope this helps.
Ok I am some what very late on this thread.
I came across this as I have been looking for information on the Zelensky grenade and other rifle grenades of Soviet origin of the WWI and WWII period. This part of a paper/document I am writing on antitank rifles and rifle grenades of the Finnish-soviet wars.
1. MINENAZ16 presented in his first post pictures of a Colonel Zelensky’s rifle grenade. This would appear to represent a later version of the grenade.
The original poster, another forum, indicated this had a body of cast aluminium. That poster also indicated it was a “WW1 era M1915 Russian Zielensky rifle grenade”. I am not sure if Russia had designated it as an M1915 grenade. Colonel Zelensky first presented his grenade in 1914.
2. Ivashkin makes a useful point in that the original Zelensky grenade had a fuse in its base. This is presented in the web documents:
English version
Domestic rifle grenades, April 9 2014
or
Russian version
Отечественные винтовочные гранаты, 9 апреля 2014
Отечественные винтовочные гранаты
В самом конце 1904 года (по новому стилю в начале 1905-го) закончилась оборона Порт-Артура. Специфика самого длительного сражения Русско-японской войны привела к появлению новых тактик и новых систем вооружения. К примеру, именно для защиты Порт-Артура российские войска впервые применили минометы
topwar.ru
The text on these web pages indicate Ivashkin’s version, but the sketch in the text indicates something similar to that posted by MINENAZ16
Hope this helps.
The attached PDF is an enlarged reproduction of the picture that Ivashkin posted.
I have translated the Russian so it is a bit more readable. I also included some basic conversion used in the Russian text.
I also made the component numberings a bit more readable.
The print format is A2 paper.
MINENAZ16, if you have a better picture of the newer version with any text I will try to translate it.
The current picture you have posted fuzzy.
I have translated the Russian so it is a bit more readable. I also included some basic conversion used in the Russian text.
I also made the component numberings a bit more readable.
The print format is A2 paper.
MINENAZ16, if you have a better picture of the newer version with any text I will try to translate it.
The current picture you have posted fuzzy.
Big problem, that during WW1 in Russian empire produced a lot of grenades. Not like a lot of types, a lot of producers and they were making some changes in construction.Hi,
Ok I am some what very late on this thread.
I came across this as I have been looking for information on the Zelensky grenade and other rifle grenades of Soviet origin of the WWI and WWII period. This part of a paper/document I am writing on antitank rifles and rifle grenades of the Finnish-soviet wars.
1. MINENAZ16 presented in his first post pictures of a Colonel Zelensky’s rifle grenade. This would appear to represent a later version of the grenade.
The original poster, another forum, indicated this had a body of cast aluminium. That poster also indicated it was a “WW1 era M1915 Russian Zielensky rifle grenade”. I am not sure if Russia had designated it as an M1915 grenade. Colonel Zelensky first presented his grenade in 1914.
2. Ivashkin makes a useful point in that the original Zelensky grenade had a fuse in its base. This is presented in the web documents:
English version
Domestic rifle grenades, April 9 2014
or
Russian version
Отечественные винтовочные гранаты, 9 апреля 2014
Отечественные винтовочные гранаты
В самом конце 1904 года (по новому стилю в начале 1905-го) закончилась оборона Порт-Артура. Специфика самого длительного сражения Русско-японской войны привела к появлению новых тактик и новых систем вооружения. К примеру, именно для защиты Порт-Артура российские войска впервые применили минометы
The text on these web pages indicate Ivashkin’s version, but the sketch in the text indicates something similar to that posted by MINENAZ16
Hope this helps.
Please, do not trust a lot of articles from russian website and a specially article from 2014th. Since that time appeared huuuuuge amount of information (about WW1 too), also quality of some articles was poor for 2014 too.
For example, a bit not grenades. Not long time ago from the lecture of historic I got information, that on plant in the city was producing mortar and trained forces hot to operate with it. I made investigation in internet and found completely nothing about this mortar. Who knows what was that?
