Soviet F1 RG42 WW2 German Training Poster

[Kilroy was Here]

Hi, I wanted to share a new addition to the collection. I really like this piece. I have been focusing on Soviet grenades as of late, so a nice addition to get. It is also a great original reference for these two Soviet grenades, and is also a great display item.
The poster is made from 3 layers of woven fabric that is very sturdy, but wrinkled a bit, but does not look too bad at all, it adds character. The fabric is soft and perfectly flexible still. The image printing, however they did this, is high quaility very bright and vivid still after all this time. It says in the corner " for official use only" and "copy #280"

Does anyone know exactly "where" these might have been used. Are these a standard training poster every German soldier would have encountered in training? A very interesting item I think.

Hope you enjoy the pics, and Thanks for any help in advance.

Regards, Steve

 

[Kilroy was Here]

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[Slick Rick]

Nice. I have an MP5 "training" poster of similar design. On a restoration note, have you tried ironing (on low heat maybe) to smooth it out some?

 

[MT-LB]

Hello,
can't tell you how widly it was used during training, but I guess this is a very early example of the training poster. We have another one that I think is a later version with the details on the lower left corner.
The curiosity about the training poster is that they show the old Koweschnikow fuze instead of the UZRG or UZRGM!
Erik

 

[MT-LB]

Nice. I have an MP5 "training" poster of similar design. On a restoration note, have you tried ironing (on low heat maybe) to smooth it out some?

Rick,
but guess the MP 5 was from the "other side" of the wall.....gggg
Erik

 

[Kilroy was Here]

Nice. I have an MP5 "training" poster of similar design. On a restoration note, have you tried ironing (on low heat maybe) to smooth it out some?

Hi Rick, No, I did not try to do anything to it. I think maybe a steamer might remove some wrinkles, but I might just leave it as is. Maybe steam ironing between a sheet of cotton towel. If I do attempt anything, I will do a small test spot first.

Regards, Steve

 

[Slick Rick]

Ya. Just wish I had room to hang it.

 

[Kilroy was Here]

Hello,
can't tell you hwo widly it was used during training, but I guess this is a very early example of the training poster. We have another one that I think is a later version with the details on the lower left corner.
The curiosity about the training poster is that they show the old Koweschnikow fuze instead of the UZRG or UZRGM!
Erik

Hi Erik, You also have a nice poster!! Thanks for the info. I think maybe yours was made by a different manufacturer, maybe not later.

The fuse you mention, the "Koveshnikov" was used until the end the war. Both the Koveshnikov and UZRG were used, but the UZRG was introduced around '42 I think. Here is a pic of one of my '44 date Koveshnikov.

Also "UZRG" was the "WW2" fuse. The UZRG"M" was a post war variant. I think the "M" means modified. I may be corrected on this, and will welcome more information.

Regards, Steve

 

[MT-LB]

Steve,
could be as well like you mention with the poster. The old Koweschnikow fuze was also in the 1961 dated manual about handgrenades from the NVA.
I know that the Koweschnikow fuze was only made till midwar and than the UZRG was used. The UZRGM came only after WW II.
Have a 1944 dated F1 also with e UZRG fuze in my collection. Also 2 older F1 with two different Koweshnikow fuzes.
Erik

 

[Francesco_Dif]

It is a tipical training poster of soviet pact.
In the pictures the bulgarian variant.

 

[Kilroy was Here]

It is a tipical training poster of soviet pact.
In the pictures the bulgarian variant.

Hello Francesco! Interesting poster, thank you for showing it. Is there any way to send a bigger picture of this poster? I cannot enlarge this picture.

Is this poster dated anywhere on it?

Regards, Steve

 

[Kilroy was Here]

German Grenade Poster-What is the correct Answer?

What is the correct Answer on this one?

A few weeks ago, in a different thread, I again showed the German grenade training poster that is pictured in post #1 of this thread.

This time after showing the poster again, it was said by what seemed to be knowledgeable members that it is a post war East German item, not a WW2 era training poster.

It's strange to me that a little over a year later, the poster went from a WW2 German item, to a post war training poster. It was mentioned to me that everything that is German WW2, should be dated somewhere on it. I'm not sure about that.

Even though the poster is not dated, my reasoning is, the type of construction, and the materials used for the construction of the poster, look to me that it's "most probably" a wartime pre-1945 manufactured item. I have shown this training poster before on the warrelics forum and it was said to be WW2, but would like to know for sure now.

What is the correct Answer on this one?

What do others think, Wartime WW2 or Post war training poster?