Unknown 7,5 cm shell case

[Hoeksel]

Ok, a strange shell case once more (I like these).

French manufacture (Sc-Bx = Schneider Bordeaux), Chech fuze marked 7,5 cm Mod28m and the shell case is marked Sc-Bx, 1934, CM75mm Mod28, 3. Dimensions of the case 75x168R85.

I know of the Skoda M28 export for Yugoslavia that has the same rim diameter of 85 mm but is 174 mm high. So maybe it is a cut-down case (don't think so). There is also the Vickers 2.95" mountain gun with these exact dimensions.

Can anybody help me out here? I am mainly interested in the mix of French and Chech, and the meaning of CM.

 

[HAZORD]

The primer is Skoda. The markings don't look French.

 

[Hoeksel]

I know the primer is Skoda, maybe I mispronounced Chech ;-). Should be Czech. The case is definitely French made, but I agree the whole layout shouts export and not French use.

 

[kz11gr]

Hi

Yes, Export for the anti aircraft gun.

 

[Hoeksel]

Do you know what type of AA gun? The case is very short for an AA gun I would think......and for what country?

 

[Alpini]

I know the primer is Skoda, maybe I mispronounced Chech ;-). Should be Czech. The case is definitely French made, but I agree the whole layout shouts export and not French use.

didn't you mean Mountain Gun?? C.M. = Canon de Montagne?

Sc.Bx. = Schneider Bordeaux

 

[Hoeksel]

didn't you mean Mountain Gun?? C.M. = Canon de Montagne?

Sc.Bx. = Schneider Bordeaux

Sounds believable, your explanation of CM. But this also indicates use in a French speaking country, like France or Belgium. On wikipedia I found a French used 75 mm French mountain gun......of model 1928!!! Now I just need to figure out what shell case goes with it and why the Czech primer and weird writing on the case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_de_75_M(montagne)_modele_1928

My books also mention a Schneider Mle 1928 mountain gun, also sold to Poland and used by the Germans as a Geb K 238(f). It is a modernized version of the Mle 1919 mountain gun. It was also used in Peru, Colombia and Argentina.

So it is export, I now know some countries that used the gun, but I still do not get the Czech primer.

 

[Hoeksel]

OK, my bad......yesterday I noticed this case is the same length as my 1929 dated Skoda export for the Yugoslav M28 mountain gun.........I put the wrong length in my list! So it is a 75x174R85 case.

Only mystery left is why Schneider-Bordeaux has made cases for a Czech export gun for Yugoslavia.

 

[Alpini]

Serbia and later Yugoslavia always had good contacts to the french arms industry and bought a lot of things there. The possible reasons should not be very different than from today. Schneider offered the cases to the cheapest price, there were political/diplomatic reasons or the Schneider salesman was a good friend of the yugoslavian armys responsible person :tinysmile_shutup_t2