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unknown Modification of ZELJEZARA SISAK

Zorro

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ZELJEZARA SISAK, unknown modification (Croatian Grenade):

Hi Guys,

does somebody of you know more details on the grenade on the right side of Foto 1-1?

ZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-1.jpg

The well known ZELJEZARA SISAK grenade has as shown on the left of Foto 1-1 usually
a pipe-endplug (see Foto 1-4 and 1-5), drilled with a 6mm hole for a slowburning timefuze
with a No.8 cap on the end.

ZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-4.jpgZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-5.jpg

This modification on the right side carries as a bushing that reduces the screw to the size
of the M75-grenade-Fuze on one hand and is closed on its bottom-side to prevent that
moisture and dirt get into the grenade (Foto 1-2). The adapter-bushing is not screwed in,
its pushed + glued in and fits very tight (Foto 1-3).

ZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-2.jpgZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-3.jpg

The fact that an factory-made plastic-adapter-bushing for accepting an grenade fuze is
something quite uncommon and the perfect match of the parts let me believe that this is no
field-improvisation but an factory-inprovement of the hasty made first production run which
was evtl. still on stock? Any reliable information would be very much appreciated.

I dont believe that the fuze is authentic, since these white-plastic-pattern of the fuzes is
a practice-fuze which did show up in the last years, the authentic pattern should be yellow
for the modified (live-made-practice-type) or evtl. black for the copies made in the new factories.
Since they have identical threads, I kept it for showing the principle on the fotos.

ZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-6.jpgZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-7.jpgZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-8.jpgZELJEZARA SISAK_Foto 1-9.jpg


Thank you for any information.


PLease note: all items which are shown are 100% INERT and FFE and had been received like this already.


Regards,

Ralf
 
There are some points to be observed here:
- The green "busing" looks like a protective cap for fuzes that just fit (or was altered to do so) the original threaded fuze well.
- The fuze here is a practice fuze and is made in 2010, what kinda contradicts the use with a civila war improvised grenade of the early 1990s

It can well be that somebody "enhanced" the grenade by adding a fuze that was on hand and is a regular supply item for training (maybe used).
 
Hello EOD,

thank you for the idea with the protective-cap for the Practice-grenade-fuzes.

I believe that this is the solution which was used here.

Unfortunatly I have only fotos of this cap, so that I cannot try if it would really fit that way,
and this-one doesnt move-out anymore.

Here at least the fotos:
View attachment 87500View attachment 87501View attachment 87502View attachment 87503


Thank you for confirming my information on the white-practice fuzes, didnt have a
yellow-one / black-one on hand sorry.

The last topic:
Modification in the factory as improvement of existing stocks would be still interesting.
Since at the time many of the authentic yellow practice-fuzes had been altered to
live-fuzes, due to luck / shortage of live fuzes. So the transit caps would have been
available for use. Sure it might be also just an induvidual job ... .
Maybe someone can tell if he did ever hear about some alteration like this?

Thanks fo any further information.

Best regards,

Ralf
 
Hi Guys, also here the problem fixed with the missing fotos - text is identical:

Hello EOD,

thank you for the idea with the protective-cap for the Practice-grenade-fuzes.

I believe that this is the solution which was used here.

Unfortunatly I have only fotos of this cap, so that I cannot try if it would really fit that way,
and this-one doesnt move-out anymore.

Here at least the fotos:

Practice-fuze + Protective-cap_1-1.jpgPractice-fuze + Protective-cap_1-2.jpg


Practice-fuze + Protective-cap_1-4.jpgPractice-fuze + Protective-cap_1-3.jpg

Thank you for confirming my information on the white-practice fuzes, didnt have a
yellow-one / black-one on hand sorry.

The last topic:
Modification in the factory as improvement of existing stocks would be still interesting.
Since at the time many of the authentic yellow practice-fuzes had been altered to
live-fuzes, due to luck / shortage of live fuzes. So the transit caps would have been
available for use. Sure it might be also just an induvidual job ... .
Maybe someone can tell if he did ever hear about some alteration like this?

Thanks fo any further information.

Best regards,

Ralf​
 
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