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What are these 2 Russian 45mm projectiles?

DF-41A

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Never paid attention to the difference until I have these 2. Are they BR-240 & BRZ-240? They both have a filling chamber at the bottom.
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The one on the left looks chinese.
On the Russian BR-240, the crimping of the cap seems more obvious.

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Cheers,

S.
 
Firstly the short-form code BRZ-240 designation is incorrect, it should be BZR-240 (БЗР-240). In full the GAU (later GRAU) index code of the projectile is 53-BZR-240 (53-БЗР-240). See highlighted Russian/Soviet 1947 manual pages below.

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The projectile to the left seems to be a 53-BR-240 (53-БР-240), the one to the right a 53-BZR-240. The 53-B-240 (53-Б-240) is very similar to the 53-BR-240, but is often show to be slightly different in design and obviously, no tracer attached to its fuze.

From the pressed-in markings I presume they are Russian-produced, then Chinese-repainted and stencilled.
 
Firstly the short-form code BRZ-240 designation is incorrect, it should be BZR-240 (БЗР-240). In full the GAU (later GRAU) index code of the projectile is 53-BZR-240 (53-БЗР-240). See highlighted Russian/Soviet 1947 manual pages below.

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The projectile to the left seems to be a 53-BR-240 (53-БР-240), the one to the right a 53-BZR-240. The 53-B-240 (53-Б-240) is very similar to the 53-BR-240, but is often show to be slightly different in design and obviously, no tracer attached to its fuze.

From the pressed-in markings I presume they are Russian-produced, then Chinese-repainted and stencilled.
Thank you for the correction. I've seen both BRZ-240 and BZR-240 on the internet before, dont know which one's correct. Your proof looks solid.
 
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